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Are those the freaky numbers from LOST?

I'm really getting tired of reading these debates over who is the better fan, or how someone should follow their favorite team.

I say do whatever works for you.

There's a very wide range of fans ranging from the enternally optimistic to the eternally pessimistic. There will always be disagreements, but enough with this stupid calling people out for the type of fan they are.

There's no right or wrong way to be a fan.

Yeah exactly. I tried to make this point in another thread, and I'm not sure how succesful I was. But how you relate to the Skins is probably a microcosm of how you relate to a lot of things. Not everyone is walking around smiling all day saying I feel great. Some people are. But we all sign on here and debate the team and bring different perspectives to the discussion. I think unless someone starts a thread about becoming a bears fan or something, we should give them the benefit of the doubt about being a true Skins fan.

You have to remember, we are not just regular fans. We are the greatest fans in the NFL! We are Redskins fans! We know the media is against us and we thrive on that. We, as loyal fans, aren't calling for the head of Coach Gibbs, we just want some kind of positive change that's all. No one is doubting our HOF Coach, second guessing maybe. But not doubting. Fact is, we are just spoiled by the success that Coach Gibbs brought to D.C. in his first stint and we're longing for those glory days of old! HAIL from MCUSA!

Hey, I have gone overboard criticizing Joe Gibbs myself, but I have got to tell you, I think you are going overboard with the Patriot thing. All my life I have wondered why the Redskins are not America's favorite. But one thing is for sure they are'nt. They have great fan support, but so do many other teams. I support Mattyk72's view of a fan.

Are those the freaky numbers from LOST?

You are right. I think Vinnie has stopped pushing the button.

Hey, I have gone overboard criticizing Joe Gibbs myself, but I have got to tell you, I think you are going overboard with the Patriot thing. All my life I have wondered why the Redskins are not America's favorite. But one thing is for sure they are'nt. They have great fan support, but so do many other teams. I support Mattyk72's view of a fan.

Seriously, have you guys noticed how much people hate the Skins? I don't mean Pasta or Peter King either, I mean just your average NFL fan. I guess the owner and our spending habits are part of it but I mean, come on, it's not like we've won anything for 15 years. I don't understand that.

The way the fans act has a real impact on the psyche of the players. If the fans constantly boo the quarterback, for example, if he is being trammelled in the press, etc., it will make it very difficult to play up to his ability. If the fans want to help the team, harsh criticism is not the way to do it in my view.

If you call fans "treasonous" for all their criticism, then to me it only enflames people and divides the fans and makes people irritated and defensive. So that isn't a good thing to do, nor is it accurate, because we are talking about a football team here for one thing.

"Patience is the only strength a man needs," someone said. I think that Joe Gibbs and the coaching staff looked at the NFL after last season and said, we can't win a Super Bowl unless we upgrade the offense. We have to go with a 21st century, top flight offense strategy if we are going to win.

Yet, we can't change over in one season, because it is too much to assimilate. Furthermore, we need to upgrade our offensive personnel. Yet, if we do that, we won't be able to have the depth we want in other areas.

So I think that the Redskins brain trust said we will shoot for a Super Bowl in 2007, and hope that things come together as fast as possible to have another playoff season in 2006.

We made a mistake in giving up on Walt Harris in my view. Clearly he is tearing it up in San Francisco and we could really have used his presence back there. The Archuleta decision is far from clear in my view, because we also have a lot of people trying to learn a new and complicated defense, including Archuleta, and the injuries back there have been a problem.

Anyway, I believe we are on the right track, and that success is best measured in the long view and whether what we are doing is going to make us better in the long view or whether we are going downhill. Clearly to me we are not going downhill, but just have to have some time to develop. In 2007 I believe we will be a juggernaut. And this season will have some great moments in store yet.

Letting Walt Harris go was a mistake?

Wow, who would have ever thought we would have heard those words?

We practically rode him outta town a year ago. Perhaps there's a lesson to be learned there.

I swear to god, if I hear "Walt Harris" or "Jason Campbell" one more time I am gonna shoot myself.

I swear to god, if I hear "Walt Harris" or "Jason Campbell" one more time I am gonna shoot myself.




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