Passing: A Deeper Look

I hate you......chinga tu madre

what was the point of that?

what was the point of that?
It's okay he's my cousin.... we joke... (hence the similar H's in our name)

It's okay he's my cousin.... we joke... (hence the similar H's in our name)

Is he the TE from Maryland? I figured there had to be some background

No... but we're both cousins of him...

Joey Haynos is the TE from MD

WillH is the other knuckle-head poster



and then theres yours truly... humbly posting like a maniac as of recent.

I need to do a little more homework... and a little less posting though.
Calc 2 is a bitch, and I've been slacking.

We're all redskins fans of course...

I figured if anyone was going to find flaws it would be you ;) I got the numbers from NFL.com and cross-referenced with Stats Inc (through Football Outsiders). Both had him at 6/8 in that game.

that's odd that nfl.com would have 6/8 deep when their own play by play shows 4/7. I verified the 4/7 by rewatching the entire game twice though ;).

6.25% (1/16) deep int rate i'm guessing isn't very good though. peyton has a 2.7% deep int rate (1/37). both of brunells weren't great decisions... i don't remember the conditions of peyton's int (in the manning bowl).

pretty cool tafkas . .

Average of 5.3 "deep" attempts a game for MB

Average of 28.16 overall attempts a game

so about 18% of his passes travel 15 yards or more

Just going by the official definition. Personally, I feel a five-yard screen that goes 50 is more effective than a 15-yarder that goes for an extra 10. But people want to see bombs.

That's certainly simplifying the logic, but a bit misleading. I want to see wins, which requires the O to open up the field a bit, which requires the occasional long pass to stretch the safeties. So, yes, I want to see bombs, but not as an end unto itself (that's right, I said "unto").

that's odd that nfl.com would have 6/8 deep when their own play by play shows 4/7. I verified the 4/7 by rewatching the entire game twice though ;).

6.25% (1/16) deep int rate i'm guessing isn't very good though. peyton has a 2.7% deep int rate (1/37). both of brunells weren't great decisions... i don't remember the conditions of peyton's int (in the manning bowl).

Well going game by game for each team for 6 weeks I imagine I probably had an error here or there. But whatever, you get the general jist of what I was trying to do...I think

That's certainly simplifying the logic, but a bit misleading. I want to see wins, which requires the O to open up the field a bit, which requires the occasional long pass to stretch the safeties. So, yes, I want to see bombs, but not as an end unto itself (that's right, I said "unto").

I shouldn't generalize but I honestly believe (and I'm sure others would agree) that there are people here that would rather we lose with guns blazing than lose or even win playing a conservative game. For example, I think to win Sunday we have to play conservative, not engage in a shootout. But I'd be willing to be that if we pull off something like a 13-10 win there will still be people saying "Well that's not going to work when we go up against Donovan and the Eagles" or some such thing

I shouldn't generalize but I honestly believe (and I'm sure others would agree) that there are people here that would rather we lose with guns blazing than lose or even win playing a conservative game. For example, I think to win Sunday we have to play conservative, not engage in a shootout. But I'd be willing to be that if we pull off something like a 13-10 win there will still be people saying "Well that's not going to work when we go up against Donovan and the Eagles" or some such thing
Fair enough - given where we are right now, I would agree that conservative offers a better chance for victory. However, I think we have the tools for a high-powered offense like Indy. For that to work, though, we have to demonstrate the capability of going deep (kinda like the Death Star - it's the threat more than the actual use that is most effective).