Core of the Redskins problem: Greed

Where is our upheaval?? I'm not seeing it.

We added Arch and Carter to the D. Lloyd is the only new starter to the offense. People are acting like we ripped up the roster this offseason and started over. The new offense wasn't supposed to be a huge issue, and it certainly doesn't help explain the sudden demise of the defense.

Let's face it, we have the talent to win ballgames but for whatever reason they're just not getting it done on the field.

The problem with the defense is injuries more than anything. Salave'a and Griffen have played together like once this year. That's a big problem. That's gonna the run defense. Then, you miss Springs and add a safety who doesn't cover well. You replace Springs with Wright and then Rogers hasn't been what I had hoped. That hurts the passing game.

Where is our upheaval?? I'm not seeing it.

We added Arch and Carter to the D. Lloyd is the only new starter to the offense. People are acting like we ripped up the roster this offseason and started over. The new offense wasn't supposed to be a huge issue, and it certainly doesn't help explain the sudden demise of the defense.

Let's face it, we have the talent to win ballgames but for whatever reason they're just not getting it done on the field.

Our regular defensive starters for last year were Renaldo Wynn DE, Phillip Daniels DE, Cornelius Giffin DT, Joe Salava'e DT, Levar Arrington OLB, Marcus Washington OLB, Lemar Marshall MLB, Shawn Springs CB, Carlos Rogers CB, Sean Taylor FS and Ryan Clark FS.

Yesterday Wynn, Griffin, Salave'e, Arrington, Springs and Clark were not starting. I know some replacements were due to injuries, but the reality is only 5 of the regular 11 starters were on the field. That's only 45%. I would call that an upheaval.

I think the problem goes back furthur than just one year of free agent acquisitions. This problem has manefested itself for several years. It is a repeated strategy of trading draft picks for veterans. It is flawed. Because management has traded away the future, it is difficult to reverse the strategy. For at least five years, the team would have to keep what draft picks it has and not aggressively go after free agents. The talent level would deminish greatly. Redskin fans wouldn't put up with it. Coaches would get fired, seats would be empty and the owners would lose money. Its not going to happen.

It's like a bad nightmare. Gibbs is a great coach.... I HATE Snyder!

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Our regular defensive starters for last year were Renaldo Wynn DE, Phillip Daniels DE, Cornelius Giffin DT, Joe Salava'e DT, Levar Arrington OLB, Marcus Washington OLB, Lemar Marshall MLB, Shawn Springs CB, Carlos Rogers CB, Sean Taylor FS and Ryan Clark FS.

Yesterday Wynn, Griffin, Salave'e, Arrington, Springs and Clark were not starting. I know some replacements were due to injuries, but the reality is only 5 of the regular 11 starters were on the field. That's only 45%. I would call that an upheaval.

I think the problem goes back furthur than just one year of free agent acquisitions. This problem has manefested itself for several years. It is a repeated strategy of trading draft picks for veterans. It is flawed. Because management has traded away the future, it is difficult to reverse the strategy. For at least five years, the team would have to keep what draft picks it has and not aggressively go after free agents. The talent level would deminish greatly. Redskin fans wouldn't put up with it. Coaches would get fired, seats would be empty and the owners would lose money. Its not going to happen.


WELL SAID....I like Dan Snyder, he just needs to learn to leave the BIG decisions to the ones who have to deal with it most, THE COACHES AND STAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Our regular defensive starters for last year were Renaldo Wynn DE, Phillip Daniels DE, Cornelius Giffin DT, Joe Salava'e DT, Levar Arrington OLB, Marcus Washington OLB, Lemar Marshall MLB, Shawn Springs CB, Carlos Rogers CB, Sean Taylor FS and Ryan Clark FS.

Yesterday Wynn, Griffin, Salave'e, Arrington, Springs and Clark were not starting. I know some replacements were due to injuries, but the reality is only 5 of the regular 11 starters were on the field. That's only 45%. I would call that an upheaval.


Upheaval to me means what happens in the offseason and that's what I was referring to. Injuries have hurt this year but you can't plan for that.

I mentioned this in another thread but i agree w/ some of the points made in this thread. Gibbs and Co started out being frugal saying they wouldn't resign Smoot for more than Springs was making. They let AP go for more money, ok. Then we sign AA, for more than ST is making. You get the point.

I'm just not sold on the building of our team thru Free agency yet in the nfl 2006. I think there should be a balance and more and more we are titled towards free agency. The first thing to go would be our depth.

If we signed AA, why couldn't we have overpaid for one of our core guys, smoot-ap-clark.

That being said, i hope and want them to prove my opinion wrong.

WELL SAID....I like Dan Snyder, he just needs to learn to leave the BIG decisions to the ones who have to deal with it most, THE COACHES AND STAFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We're all fooling ourselves if we think that Gibbs doesn't have final (and probably first) say in all of these trades of draft picks for players. I'm on record repeatedly saying that the Philly / New England approach of stock piling and building thru the draft first, then filling holes via free agency is the only way to LONG-TERM success. It provides a team with quality depth for far less than signing free agents left and right. We make Snyder a convenient target, but I believe Gibbs has caught the "instant gratification" bug from Snyder when it comes to feeding our lust for big FA signings. I was hoping that Gibbs would bring a more mature approach by building a winner patiently. Look at Lovey Smith and the Bears, another prime example of a team that had the patience to take their knocks while drafting/developing young talent.

I'd kill to get Pierce back right now and move Marshall to the outside.

As for lynching Danny Snyder, he's not responsible for the offseason moves. I don't really care for the guy, but we can't blame him for something he didn't do.

Snyder does need to leave the decision making to the "football" people. Once personel decisions have been made, he needs to do what he does well......................................OPEN UP THE CHECKBOOK! HAIL from Nashville!

Snyder does need to leave the decision making to the "football" people. Once personel decisions have been made, he needs to do what he does well......................................OPEN UP THE CHECKBOOK! HAIL from Nashville!


Amen Hallelujah and BRING ON DUCKETT!!!!!!!!!!!