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10-11-2006, 04:43 PM
I think 21 CAN cover almost any WR in the league. IF he was playing straight coverage. His problem is that he has to play coverage and run. Against any decent 1 or even 2 in this league heaping the responsibility on one guy makes it pretty easy to pop open. If he lined up at CB he'd be a pretty decent corner. But he can't do both well at the same time. It isn't physically possible to protect against the run while staying in coverage against a guy like Burress.
I also think he just had a bad game on Sunday when he wasn't able to cover anybody.
FRPLG
10-11-2006, 04:43 PM
Taylor is picking up slack.. trying to make things happen.. so he isn't always consistent... Seems to be a "team" problem, not a Taylor problem. That man is a beast.. and a God in my book.
I think this is right. Taylor seems to be basically trying to contribute everywhere on D and is simply spread thin. If he could be free to roam like he was the last two years he'd be cracking skulls and picking passes all over. Now he is basically the fall back at every position in the secondary and supports all the LBs. The guy is a beast simpyl because he hasn't really looked too crappy in doing it. Imagine what our D would be without him. Jeez..scary to think about.
Williams is without a doubt one of the most overrated players in the game, right up there with Vick.
Taylor is a more complete package than Williams, and I'm not just being a homer.
FRPLG
10-11-2006, 04:46 PM
I also think he just had a bad game on Sunday when he wasn't able to cover anybody.
I can't even remember a play this year where Taylor just broke into coverage. Every play where he seemed to get "beat" it was because he had to fill the middle zone for Run D and then drop into coverage. Not to say he hasn't made in positioning mistakes or anything but he does have a huge amount of responsibility out there and it has to be played perfect for it to work. You don't see any other Safeties doing what he does I don't think.
SouperMeister
10-11-2006, 04:47 PM
Give Sean Taylor the front seven playing in front of Roy Williams and he would be the best safety in the league, by a wide margin.
I like Roy as a run stopper, but he has nowhere near the range that Taylor has patrolling deep. He made two bad plays against Philly that resulted in 40+ yard gains, one of which he let Eagles TE Smith run right past him while spying the backfield. The other was on the flea flicker TD, where he looked to have an angle to make a play on the ball but somehow came up short.
Taylor has admittedly been victimized a few times this season, but that has been mostly on plays where the coverage dictated that he match up 1-on-1 with a WR. Dallas NEVER puts Williams in that situation, because they know that it would be a lost cause.
FRPLG
10-11-2006, 04:48 PM
Williams is without a doubt one of the most overrated players in the game, right up there with Vick.
Taylor is a more complete package than Williams, and I'm not just being a homer.
100%. I have never understood the Williams fascination. He can hit pretty decent but there are numerous hard hitting safeties. Hell Arch is considered a hard hitting safety who can't cover and we got killed for signing him. Think we would have gotten killed if we had signed Roy WIlliams like that? I highly doubt it. Is Madden behind this? He seems to be the biggest proliferator of over-hype in the league.
hesscl34
10-11-2006, 04:49 PM
I think this is right. Taylor seems to be basically trying to contribute everywhere on D and is simply spread thin. If he could be free to roam like he was the last two years he'd be cracking skulls and picking passes all over. Now he is basically the fall back at every position in the secondary and supports all the LBs. The guy is a beast simpyl because he hasn't really looked too crappy in doing it. Imagine what our D would be without him. Jeez..scary to think about.
Yay!! I'm right!!! :)
TheBigD
10-11-2006, 04:51 PM
Williams is without a doubt one of the most overrated players in the game, right up there with Vick.
Taylor is a more complete package than Williams, and I'm not just being a homer.
I did say at the very beginning that this wasn't a comparision. I am sure that Dallas fans would say the exact opposite thing.
The reality is, both are giving up plays. I mean against the Gimps, the two deep passes should have been intercepted for the length of time it stayed up in the air. Later that Sunday, Williams should have intercepted the ball when I think Brown scored a TD.
TheMalcolmConnection
10-11-2006, 04:53 PM
I don't think that Taylor is overrated because he's just now building his reputation. Williams has had his, and like was stated as above, he's still living off of it while not performing like it.
JWsleep
10-11-2006, 04:55 PM
Also, I think RW is only going to get worse, while Taylor will improve as he learns more about how to play the NFL game. So the upside is all with Taylor, IMO. But both have been beaten this year in coverage, no doubt.