Are 21 and 31 over-rated?

why doesnt anyone remember walt harris.

NFL.com - Walt Harris (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/3594)

Harris is having a great season in San Fran, but he was marginal here. He was great at missing tackles, though, which seems to have spread to the rest of the team.

oh I care, like know one notice it.....when the other day some whiteboy called Mutombo a monkey, yall pretend like it dont exist........I dont, and I can care less if I'm popular on here or not......sorry but ass kiss is yall business..............

Has anyone on this site denied that racism exists? I didn't think so, so quit making things up.

You have NO basis for saying that ANYONE on this site is racist. You have shown no link at all between saying Vick is overrated and racism. Prior to this season, many on this site said Urlacher was overrated but you didn't see people lashing out and saying "yall blackboys are racist."

Oh, and you're not exactly endearing yourself to people when you tell everyone that ass kissing is our business. If ass kissing is our business, then making ignorant and unsupported allegations are yours.

Has anyone on this site denied that racism exists? I didn't think so, so quit making things up.

You have NO basis for saying that ANYONE on this site is racist. You have shown no link at all between saying Vick is overrated and racism. Prior to this season, many on this site said Urlacher was overrated but you didn't see people lashing out and saying "yall blackboys are racist."

Oh, and you're not exactly endearing yourself to people when you tell everyone that ass kissing is our business. If ass kissing is our business, then making ignorant and unsupported allegations are yours.


Come on guys, drop it. I just came over here from the Extreme Skins site in hopes that I would find a more mature crowd. At least let me live in my dream world for a day.

Last I checked people come here to talk about the Skins, not racism.

Come on guys, drop it. I just came over here from the Extreme Skins site in hopes that I would find a more mature crowd. At least let me live in my dream world for a day.

Last I checked people come here to talk about the Skins, not racism.

You are correct sir. We are here to talk about the Redskins and, more generally, professional football. But this site has a ZERO tolerance policy for racist statements. Accordingly, we take allegations of racism very seriously. I wish we didn't have to address the issue, but BMF21 has forced our hands.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

You are correct sir. We are here to talk about the Redskins and, more generally, professional football. But this site has a ZERO tolerance policy for racist statements. Accordingly, we take allegations of racism very seriously. I wish we didn't have to address the issue, but BMF21 has forced our hands.

Now back to your regularly scheduled programming.

forced....choice words

forced....choice words

Drop it and move on or stand to lose any posting privileges. We're not going to go into this issue anymore - it's a total waste of time.

you mean he wasn't a white QB, I dont have to play the race, because most of yall racism show on this site,.....to be honest what you white boys want to say is Vick dont play like the White QB in the league, but he don't have to, because this is the last position in the league, that your desperatly holding on too.......so hold long as you can.....it happen in basketball, it happen in every other postion on the field of football, it happen in golf, no black athlete should have to keep proven his worth, because if you run a 3-4 defense, you can beat the hell out of your hero Manning....because, he get's daised and confused..... its just like saying Babe Ruth is the greatest baseball player of all time......of alltime when all whiteboys was allowed to play the game....yea, but when they played the negro league...they got there ass.....whooped......, anyone understand that word......ASS and Whooped.....so funny to me...... be honest, Vick is changing the game of football, like, Texas Western did when they beat Kentucky......when 5 black atheletes beat the all white squad....so dont give me the bullshit anymore about, race, because....that what this world is full of..........racist bastards, who try to pretend that there not.......when they are........talent is talent, i can say, the truths about sports, 5 white boys will never start in a NBA game again in life and there will never be a white running back in the league that is a probowler and there is no such thing as a white cornerback in the NFL all of this is true, not racist, the racist thing is when you try to compare Vick to Manning or Brady......those are great QB's, but Vick can become a better passer, can they become better atheletes..........Hell No!!!!!

Oh come on man, Vick can't hold McNabb's jock strap let alone be on the same level as Manning. No doubt Vick is talented, mostly with his feet, but he can't throw for shit 50% of the time. That my friend is reality. There are at least 8 QBs I would take before Vick simply because they can throw, and throw accurately. Also keep in mind the longevity of a running back in the NFL...it's not pretty. A running QB's shelf life is much shorter than a pocket QB. Plus, why the hell would I want Payton Manning to become a better Athlete? Who the hell in their right mind would want Manning running around?

As for basketball, well, 31% all players drafted last year have been international players. Those white boys in Easter European ghettos are playing b-ball too. Granted they won't be flying high and jamming from sky high but they know how to play. They can shoot, they can dribble, and they know the Xs and Os. Why do you think they beat those "super star" NBA ballers in the Olympics and the World Championships?

This isn't a black and white thing...It's about talent. If you can play you get a contract. Race will always be an issue to some extent but I think Martin Luther King's dream is being realized now more so than ever. More and more teams are looking into a player's character than the color of their Skin. Not too many people wants a highly talented asshole on their team whether he is black or white.

Well put.

Vick has looked great the last few days, but I want to see this consistantly from him before I buy in that his arm is better. I was a huge Vick fan when he went to tech, and really hoped he'd transition to the pros. If I want to see exciting, I put Vick in a class with Barry Sanders, but if I'm choosing a QB for my team, I'm picking passing over scrambles. Someone with enough to keep the play alive, but with an arm!

Vick always has spurs of brilliance like this, and then he runs into a defensive scheme he can't handle, and suddenly he spirals downward. He's very fun to watch, but if the atlanta D wasnt so solid every year, they would never make the playoffs.