T.J. Duckett Conspiracy

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Just a heads up, with the DL banged up it's likely that TJ won't dress again this weekend. Chalk it up to the conspiracy I guess.

maybe even the conspiracy is a conspiracy!

i can respect your theory that we are living in a "what have you done for me recently" type world...but couldn't the same be said for you guys, and your support of brunell? i mean, sure he did well (tossing the short balls) against houston and jacksonville but the overall trend is that he can't beat you down field...his receivers may be able to, but he can't. when was the last time we had several sucessful LONG BOMBS? not 10 yard slants or screens that went for big plays...(not dimishing the value of these plays)??? the fact is he hasn't tossed big bombs, when it counts, in a LONG LONG time...
i wouldn't argue that long throws make the QB, but i woudl argue that you can't enjoy sustained sucess without it...what is mcnabb doing these days? manning? any of the other elite qbs?

As a quarterback with smaller receivers, you can't just throw the ball up for grabs. Those guys have to get open, create separation. They haven't been able to do that for the most part yet.

I think TJ for a 3rd rounder was a steal. We have needed a bruising, between the tackles and short yardage back for a while. But I don't get why we aren't using him.

As far as the 4th and 1 against the Giants, where we should have used him was on the 3rd and 1.

I agree with you 100%. But, here is what Joe Bugel had to say about it:


"[In last Sunday's game against the Giants], we told our offensive football team before the game that we were going to throw the ball on our first 3rd-and-1 play because we were 100 percent run on 3rd-and-1 going into the game. They accepted that, and our first 3rd-and-1 play was in the third quarter.

"It turned out to be a big play because we didn't make it. It was a short pass to Chris Cooley. I'll tell you what, [the Giants] must have heard the play in the huddle because they played that pass really well.
"As coaches, you can't second-guess that call. You can't what-if it. Our players didn't second-guess it, either. I think, when you ask offensive linemen, they always want to run on 3rd-and-1. We told them we were going to take a shot on this pass play on 3rd-and-1, and we didn't make it. So be it.

Personally I think that is ridiculous to make that decision before the game. In my opinion you have to see how the flow of the game is going, how successful have we been running so far, etc. Dumb dumb dumb. I mean I can see scripting the first series of the game or whatever, but to make the decision to pass on the first 3rd and 1 before the game even starts is ridiculous.

Carrying it into the 3rd quarter of a winnable game is ridiculous...

I agree with you 100%. But, here is what Joe Bugel had to say about it:


"[In last Sunday's game against the Giants], we told our offensive football team before the game that we were going to throw the ball on our first 3rd-and-1 play because we were 100 percent run on 3rd-and-1 going into the game. They accepted that, and our first 3rd-and-1 play was in the third quarter.

"It turned out to be a big play because we didn't make it. It was a short pass to Chris Cooley. I'll tell you what, [the Giants] must have heard the play in the huddle because they played that pass really well.
"As coaches, you can't second-guess that call. You can't what-if it. Our players didn't second-guess it, either. I think, when you ask offensive linemen, they always want to run on 3rd-and-1. We told them we were going to take a shot on this pass play on 3rd-and-1, and we didn't make it. So be it.

Personally I think that is ridiculous to make that decision before the game. In my opinion you have to see how the flow of the game is going, how successful have we been running so far, etc. Dumb dumb dumb. I mean I can see scripting the first series of the game or whatever, but to make the decision to pass on the first 3rd and 1 before the game even starts is ridiculous.

But if it worked we wouldn't be saying jack right now.

That's how things go, you're not going to make the right call 100% of the time. You win some, you lose some. If it works it's a genius call, if it fails then it's a disaster.

I'd guarantee you that ALOT of calls/decisions are made before the game. That 3rd and 1 call was obviously a part of the 3rd down package of the game plan. That's why teams game plan and scheme. I'm sure that defensively, the Giants KNEW that we have run 100% of the time on 3rd and 1.

But if it worked we wouldn't be saying jack right now.

That's how things go, you're not going to make the right call 100% of the time. You win some, you lose some. If it works it's a genius call, if it fails then it's a disaster.

I'd guarantee you that ALOT of calls/decisions are made before the game. That 3rd and 1 call was obviously a part of the 3rd down package of the game plan. That's why teams game plan and scheme. I'm sure that defensively, the Giants KNEW that we have run 100% of the time on 3rd and 1.
That's fine in the first quarter, maybe even the second. But to say, we're not even going to consider how the Gyants' D has actually been playing, or what has worked on offense today, is ridiculous.

Now, if Buges had said, "That was our plan, but we decided at the time that passing on this 3rd down play was the best decision", I'm not going to second guess that. What I do second guess is making that decision for a play in the 3rd quarter before the game even starts.

Well guys give Bugel a call. I am...........sure you could teach him quite a bit. Next give Edison a shout out about his shit that didn't work

But if it worked we wouldn't be saying jack right now.

That's how things go, you're not going to make the right call 100% of the time. You win some, you lose some. If it works it's a genius call, if it fails then it's a disaster.

I'd guarantee you that ALOT of calls/decisions are made before the game. That 3rd and 1 call was obviously a part of the 3rd down package of the game plan. That's why teams game plan and scheme. I'm sure that defensively, the Giants KNEW that we have run 100% of the time on 3rd and 1.

True, but sometimes, especially back when Gibbs was first coaching, teams knew what was coming, and their goal was to stop it. You'd think that Brunell could have come out of the huddle with a t-shirt on saying, "We're running it up the middle." and the Giants wouldn't have been able to stop it.