Top Corner or Star Back: Bailey Makes It Clear

The other thing is our secondary has been boosted by the selection of Taylor. There may be aslight drop off but Baily is not going to be a huge noticable diffierence. Look at the Eagles they have dropped both starting CB's so just how much is a CB worth?

Wasn't the second round pick necessary to make the salaries work?
That was definitely part of it. Bailey had no contract, and it was going to take beaucoup bucks to sign him. Portis, on the other hand, had a very reasonable contract. Now, of course, Snyder signed Portis to a more lucrative deal after the fact, but that had no bearing on the deal he had to make with Denver to acquire Portis in the first place.

Don't want to be a conspiracy theorist here, but I might go so far as to say if not for Dan Snyder, people wouldn't be so quick to judge this trade. But it's another way to attack him for being too hasty.
I don't think that's such a far-fetched theory, my friend. The Snyder Haters love to point to this deal as proof positive that Snyder has his head up his ass.

I think Dave Butz Baby made a great point: Snyder didn't throw in a second rounder just to be "splashy" or "stupid"-- he gave up what was necessary to acquire a RB of Portis' caliber. I can't stress this enough-- Bailey was not going to re-sign with Washington or play another down for the Redskins. He was, for all intents and purposes, no longer a Redskin the moment the Skins slapped the franchise tag on him. Nobody was going to surrender two first round picks for him, and the Skins couldn't afford to pay him the franchise tender anyway.

When you combine the money factor with the fact that Bailey would have walked anyway, it's clear the Redskins had to give up something in order to acquire Portis. Considering Portis was originally a second rounder, and has proven himself to be a first-round talent, I don't think giving up a second rounder for him is overpaying.

Bottom line is Snyder did what he had to do to get the deal done. I highly doubt he tossed Bailey and the 2nd rounder on the bargaining table right off the bat.

On paper maybe we gave up a little too much. But does anyone seriously regret the deal? Would anyone have not made the deal if you were in Snyder's shoes?

You have a disgruntled star CB who wants out and he already turned down a fair offer and future negotiations do not look promising. You have a new head coach who loves to run the football and one of the top young RB's in the league is being dangled in front of you. What would you have done differently?

It was a ballsy deal that alot of owners/GM's would not have made.

last year was not bailey's best year either. i remember him getting beat on several occasions for big plays.Portis is 21/22, has alrady made the pro bowl. We got the upper hand on this deal.

I think it's a bit misleading to say you can find a running back easier than a cover corner. I think that the top corners usually pan out better than the top running backs, probably because there is less hype. I think Fred Smoot has turned out much better than say Willie Green up in Cleveland. It's not cut and dry, and for what we are trying to do here in DC, Portis will have more effect on our team this year than Bailey would. As much as I would love to have Bailey, I remember the Tom Knight era, the simple truth is that while Denver has a system they believe they can just plug anyone into (talk about hubris) we don't have to hope here in DC. We have a back in Portis who has run for 1500 yds and scored 15 tds to begin his career. I can't wait to see Portis running wild for us.

I think you can't just compare it positionally cb v. rb.

The league is filled with average running backs who can be quality starters and get the job done. In such cases, the RB's team can still be successful if other parts make up for the lack of a premier (top 5) back (New England anyone??). On the other hand, if your best cornerback is only average, he will be toasted fairly regularly. In such cases, the lack of a GOOD (say top 25%) corner can really set a team back.

BUT, if we are talking a top 5 player at each position, I think it is a no-brainer take the running back EVERY time. If you have a game breaker (like Portis) at RB, the defense is going to have to crowd down and put the ENTIRE secondary in one-on-one's. In those cases, your entire secondary better be well above average because, if not, the weak link will be exploited and won't get help. So your "shut down" corner takes out my number one receiver every play - fine, I got three other guys on every play to throw to and NONE of them are defended by a shut-down cover guy. Almost by definition, someone will be open and that premier corner will be chasing some other defenders' man into the endzone. The ONLY drawback is, as Champ pointed out, CB's generally last much longer than RB's (but, if the back is TRULY special, e.g. Emmitt, Walter, Riggins, etc. you will get 8-10 quality years).

With players of Champ's and Clinton's quality, Clinton is by far the bigger difference maker.

Prisco is a nimwit who loves to bring the hate for Danny Boy.

Champ mentioned how organized and togetter Denver is compared to the Redskins. It's too bad he didn't stick around for the second coming of Joe Gibbs.

After hearing the players comments from the last 2 mini camps it's already a completely different redskins organization.

Bottom line is Snyder did what he had to do to get the deal done. I highly doubt he tossed Bailey and the 2nd rounder on the bargaining table right off the bat.

On paper maybe we gave up a little too much. But does anyone seriously regret the deal? Would anyone have not made the deal if you were in Snyder's shoes?

You have a disgruntled star CB who wants out and he already turned down a fair offer and future negotiations do not look promising. You have a new head coach who loves to run the football and one of the top young RB's in the league is being dangled in front of you. What would you have done differently?

It was a ballsy deal that alot of owners/GM's would not have made.

I agree it was ballsy, but I would not have made the deal on those terms. I would have been patient, we had Champ franchised and didn't have to move him so soon. I think if we had a real GM then we could have gotten Portis without throwing in the pick. I agree that it looks like the pick is no big deal right now, but what about 2 yrs from now when this team has to be dismantled and we don't have any young talent because we kept trading away our picks for players that we can no longer afford?

I love the Skins as much as anyone, and I don't doubt that Danny's heart is in the right place but he's about as fickle as a fourteen yr old girl. He loves Norv, no he doesn't, he loves Schottenheimer, no he doesn't cuz he really loves Spurrier, but actually he really loves Gibbs. I love the Gibbs move but Danny's "plan" is to just throw money around and hope something sticks. I think Danny would be the best owner in all of sports if he just admitted what he doesn't know, which is football. So please put me in the Danny basher pile and let's get it on!

Danny throws the $$ around but he also seems to have a pretty good grip on how to manage and plan around the cap, where is this "cap hell" we've been hearing about for years now?? Yeah I know Marty stepped in for one season and helped ease some of the cap burden but Snyder has been running the show since '00 now, that one season wasn't a cure all.

Snyder didn't get filthy rich by being stupid.

Snyder makes more money with the Skins than any other team in the leauge, and by a good margin. We have freaking commericals during the game on teh jumbo trons, and wehre isnt their advertising?? Id rather have an owner that spends the money to try and win then the guy that wants to have 20 million in cap room each year and try to win with no names. (besides, for all us madden fans Snyder is the man at getting talent on the team)