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vaoutlaws2006
09-22-2006, 07:22 AM
I hope mike wilbon is right. read this.Michael Wilbon - Does Gibbs Have The Tools to Fix It? - washingtonpost.com (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/21/AR2006092101636_2.html)

vaoutlaws2006
09-22-2006, 08:05 AM
although i prefer this one. read this. Rick Snider: Little offense, little defense, big problem - Examiner.com (http://www.examiner.com/a-295548~Rick_Snider__Little_offense__little_defense __big_problem.html)

MTK
09-22-2006, 10:10 AM
Paulskinsfan, Don't waste your breath explaining a point that is that obvious, rest assured it doesn't sink in!

We have what I am going to coin for some of the posters around here as the stepford hogs, and they regergitate anything Gibbs say's and does, they have no opinion of thier own, and are pre-programed to repeat Gibbs is great, but when failure happens they go into attack mode with the old classic, HOW MANY SB RING'S DO YOU HAVE mantra, as if no one on the planet knows anything about football except Gibbs.


So I am now going to leave you PSF, sorry, I tried my best but I can't hold out any longer, Gibbs is great, Gibbs is great, Gibbs is Great, Gibbs is great, Gibbs is great, and whithout him there are no other coaches, see you on the other side PSF!

I see plenty of questioning going on all over the place by everyone.

I don't see anyone blindly saying that Gibbs is great and everything is fine.

I think you're generalizing just a tad.

FRPLG
09-22-2006, 12:10 PM
Plus, we had a great clutch kicker, A darn good QB, and a HOF running back. Unfortunately we don't have anything close to a HOF player on this team.
What do you cosider "close"?

One could certainly say that Portis has the appearance of a potentnial HOFer. Remember those guys you said were HOFers were once "not even close" too because they were young. We don't have a lot of super old guys who could even be in the running for HOF. I do think we used to have more talent though for sure.

onlydarksets
09-22-2006, 12:21 PM
What do you cosider "close"?

One could certainly say that Portis has the appearance of a potentnial HOFer. Remember those guys you said were HOFers were once "not even close" too because they were young. We don't have a lot of super old guys who could even be in the running for HOF. I do think we used to have more talent though for sure.
I'd throw Taylor in the mix if he keeps stepping up his game. He can dominate at times.

Southpaw
09-22-2006, 12:33 PM
I don't see anyone blindly saying that Gibbs is great and everything is fine.

I'm not being blind. It is only the third game of the season coming up. It is BLIND to ASSUME we are not making it to the playoffs. Have some faith in Gibbs or GET OUT!! HAIL!

I know this is an extreme case, but there are at least a few other that think this way.

MTK
09-22-2006, 12:39 PM
I know this is an extreme case, but there are at least a few other that think this way.

There are extremes in both directions. I think in general the majority fall in the middle though.

Beemnseven
09-22-2006, 01:49 PM
...brunell had some amazing games, but he was done again by the eagles game and played like this in both playoff games and the preseason (which i said at the time was misused).

Last year was the best year of brunell's career ... but he hasn't been healthy for an entire season for a long time, and he's never been a great QB (which is what al saunders is used to having).

I'm still waiting on the texan's game, but if they can't figure it out there, it's seriously time to at least see if it's the QB, cause i DID see balls skipping off the ground among other 2004 highlights last sunday.

maybe he does have another miracle spurt left, but the last one was only good for about 12 games, and with his age and the wear he's taken, I'd be surprised if another spurt lasts as long.

I went back and looked at Brunell's stats at the last half of the '05 season. Even during the winning streak, Brunell was very average. Check these numbers:

@ Tampa Bay, 23 for 35, 226 yards passing
Oakland, 14 for 32, 155 yards passing
San Diego, 17 for 27, 194 yards passing
@St. Louis, 14 for 21, 156 yards passing
@Arizona, 18 for 28, 122 yards passing
Dallas, 12 for 20, 163 yards passing
NY Giants, 7 for 11, 124 yards passing (INJURED)
@Philly, 9 for 25, 141 yards passing
@Tampa Bay, 7 for 15, 41 yards passing

Total: 121 for 214 (57%), 1322 yards passing (147 yards per game)

Now, you might say, “well, he only had Moss and Cooley to throw to”, and while that’s true, you have to remember Gibbs renewed his effort to emphasize the running game. So even if there were other options to throw to, I would submit that his stats would have remained about the same. But looking at these numbers, one wonders just what we were expecting from Brunell this year.

SmootSmack
09-22-2006, 02:13 PM
Shameless semi-off topic plug. Right now (Sept. 22 1pm) on ESPN you can catch NFL Films presents the 1983 NFC Championship Game between Washington and the San Fransisco 49ers

Southpaw
09-22-2006, 03:48 PM
I went back and looked at Brunell's stats at the last half of the '05 season. Even during the winning streak, Brunell was very average. Check these numbers:

@ Tampa Bay, 23 for 35, 226 yards passing
Oakland, 14 for 32, 155 yards passing
San Diego, 17 for 27, 194 yards passing
@St. Louis, 14 for 21, 156 yards passing
@Arizona, 18 for 28, 122 yards passing
Dallas, 12 for 20, 163 yards passing
NY Giants, 7 for 11, 124 yards passing (INJURED)
@Philly, 9 for 25, 141 yards passing
@Tampa Bay, 7 for 15, 41 yards passing

Total: 121 for 214 (57%), 1322 yards passing (147 yards per game)

Now, you might say, “well, he only had Moss and Cooley to throw to”, and while that’s true, you have to remember Gibbs renewed his effort to emphasize the running game. So even if there were other options to throw to, I would submit that his stats would have remained about the same. But looking at these numbers, one wonders just what we were expecting from Brunell this year.

Exactly! Even if you look at all of last season, he only had 3-4 exceptional games, which means in the 2+ seasons he's been a Redskin, he's had 3-4 above average performances out of 29. With those kinds of numbers, it just baffles me that Gibbs is so dead set on leaving Brunell in, no matter how crappy he plays.

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