Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)


redsk1
09-18-2006, 07:54 AM
Brunell is not going to take us to a SB. That is clear. He can't make plays. He can't make things happen. He looked real slow out there.

I'm not sure benching him right now is the answer. We've got a shot at 2 W's in a row. Maybe...

Looks bad right now.

budw38
09-18-2006, 08:03 AM
I like Brunell , but he just does not have it . I also believe that our takles need to pass protect MUCH better , and we better get some pass rushers next year , A Carter ,,, what did they see in him , he has not come close to the qb once .

gibbsisgod
09-18-2006, 08:05 AM
if brunell isnt grasping this offense, it makes absolutely no sense to stick j campbell as the starter. learning the ins and outs of the nfl is complicated enough without trying to learn a new offense for like the 6th year in a row i disagree. Campbells needs to play now. enough time has been wasted already. we need a qb that can stretch a defense cause right now brunell cant do that. defenses know that brunell cant throw deep. we need to see if campbell has what it takes, even if it cause us a losing season.


The future is now for the Redskins! Start Campbell NOW!! If Brunell starts the next 2 weeks, we will be 1-3 for sure. We will beat Houston but we will NOT beat Jacksonville with MB at QB.

rickmmrr
09-18-2006, 08:10 AM
I have to start off by saying what I imagine many were thinking at the beginning of this season: that the Skins were going to be even better this year. They made some key acquisitions (not just big names as they have in the past), they brought an offensive guru, and got rid of a potential distraction (Arrington...though I did question it at the time). I unfortunately see a team in every bit of an offensive funk as they were towards the tail end of the season of 05. Against Philidelphia in the last game the offense looked a little suspect, then against Tampa Bay it was dead, and again Seattle it was never revived. Since those games the progression has only become worse. Four straight awful preseason games followed by two pathetic regular season games for a total of potentially nine games now that they looked poor on offense. So one has to begin to question what happened around this time....and there it is. The injury to Brunell. Since that time Brunell has been playing not to get hurt and not to win. The fire in Brunell is not only gone but completely burned out. When the fire of Brad Johnson (who is almost 2 years Brunells senior) is greater we have real problems. Did any notice Brad's comments when he scored the tying touchdown...something like "motherf&*&er". I would love to have a quaterback with that passion. Instead after each unnecessary toss away pass, or patheticly missed throw he walks off the field with an air of smug appathy and acceptace of his feeble abilities. He looks to Gibbs as if saying "I'm not sure what happened". I can tell you what happened. You are way way past your prime, and your passion for this game and for winning is nonexsistent to the point that it is apparent in every play you are a part of. In short...the time is to move on. Not next season...not in 4 games..but next game. Anyone who thinks we are going to even make it to the playoffs this year is fooling themselves...not in this division...not this year. If we accept that the future is Jason Cambell then why not move in this direction now. Give the kid a chance to grow and if we finish poor this season at least we may get a decent draft from it. I finish with this.

The defense and special...not the offense kept us in the game. And when the defense put the Skins in a position to tie at the 40 yard line it was not Cooley, Moss, Betts, Al Saunders, or Gibbs who gave away the drive and in the end lost the game. It was Brunell!


Could not agree more.

We have arguably the best receiving core in the NFL and Brunell does not evan try to get it too them. Something is really wrong.

gibbsisgod
09-18-2006, 08:11 AM
...and to anybody who thinks we are overreacting because its only been 2 games, you are fooling yourself. MB might not make alot of mental mistakes but he sure doesn't do anything to win games either. The redskins are in serious trouble right now. If this offense takes so long to grasp, what purpose does it serve to have a 36 year old guy playing qb? he isn't our future so all you are accomplishing at this point is delaying the inevitable. It would make more sense to me to play JC now so he can get the experience. You never really know how he will react until he get some real playing time in a real game. I appriciate what MB did last year but it is clear that the QB in this scheme needs to make plays and he just does not have what it takes anymore.

SKINSnCANES
09-18-2006, 08:11 AM
campbell is accurate. yeah he'll make mistakes, but at this point, can you honestly see brunell leading the skins to a superbowl??

I can't, and if we want a run before the window closes, we need to see if we've got a guy to get us there. He'll never get experience if you keep saying we can't put him because he doesn't have experience. and next year brunell will just be older and an even bigger injury risk. he hasn't made it through an entire season healthy in the last four or five years.

If he doesn't show something by halftime against one of the VERY worst teams in the league, it's time to see what we've got in campbell, cause cause we won't get to the postseason like this (and i'm not assuming campbell is going to come in and play like a pro bowler). I just want to see something to prove that we're better than the lions :/.

who cares if campbell makes mistakes, throwing the ball downfield and getting it picked off is no different then throwing it to betts and punting. atleast you are giving yourself a chance

EEich
09-18-2006, 08:16 AM
Brunell looked terrible, and I would be in favor of replacing him, but he didn't have any help from Samuels or Jansen. He had no pass protection all game.

However, the guy I blame the most for the loss is Gibbs. If Portis says he's healthy enough to play in a game against your arch-rival, you play him. Are you resting him so he'll be ready for Houston next week? Give me a break.

rickmmrr
09-18-2006, 08:19 AM
It took Gibbs a little over a quarter of one game to decide to pull Ramsey. Lets see how long it takes to pull Brunell.

Hog1
09-18-2006, 08:20 AM
To those of you that think a quarterback change is a good thing, and will enhance our chances of SB apearance? Will improve the quality of play from the other 52 guys who sucked? Las Vegas was built using the money of people who thought like that and were willing to give it away so easlily. Brunell didn't lose the game. he sucked, but he had a lot of company. If we change, we can probably right off this year. it's to early to pull the trigger on a QB change. Put Todd in and.................what? There is a reason why he rides the pine. Put in JC....with our protection...........he becomes David Carr

FRPLG
09-18-2006, 08:24 AM
I have riden the Brunell band wagon for a while. Ever since Gibbs put in him in when Ramsey was "injured". But the excuses are really drying up here.

We don't throw donwfield. When you don't throw downfield then they can move Safeties and LBs up and or blitz them to create free pressure. Once this happens Brunell seems either a) happy to throw it away or b) unable to make a good throw.

Now the reason we don't throw down field? A combo of bad pass protection and a CLEAR lack of confidence in Brunell's ability to do so. Either by himself or coaches.

My reasons for considering Campbell.
-At least he offers some athletic ability. He can maybe avoid pressure better.
- He has a better arm and can clearly throw downfield.

The guy has been around over a year. He understands football. I think the argument that it would be bad for him is over-rated. I am close to thinking it is really time for the Campbell era to begin.

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