Time to bench Brunell? (Mega Man Merge)

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warriorzpath
09-18-2006, 05:04 PM
Actually, I would call the Dallas game last year gutsy. But this year... not so much.

Beemnseven
09-18-2006, 05:05 PM
The last time we were 0-2 under Gibbs, it was 1989. We finished with 10 wins. This year, 10 wins will get us in the postseason.


I admire your optimism. But the '89 team didn't make the postseason. That's about as far as the similarities with the '06 team will go.

Oh, and don't confuse that with "panic" or "jumping off the bandwagon". Not everyone lives in La-La Land with our rose-colored glasses in full gear. It's simply calling it like we see it.

jdlea
09-18-2006, 05:05 PM
Even when the blitz was getting picked up Brunell was falling out of throws and skipping the ball at receivers feet. At this point, we need to see someone else in there. A player who has the balls to stand in, take the hit and deliver the football. Mark Brunell plays the game scared. He never throws deep and the one time he chose to "gamble" last night was probably one of the worst NFL passes I've ever seen. Mark Brunell looked like a high school quarterback that wandered into an NFL locker room. It was atrocious. He had something like a 26.2 rating before the last drive when he actually completed some passes against the prevent defense. His 67.7 rating after 2 weeks has him at 26th in the NFL.

Jason Campbell may not end up being a franchise quarterback, but there's only one way to find out. If this team is going to lose games early, why not lose them with a player that has a future in this league? Why get the offense in sync with Brunell by week 8 when this should be his last season? Even if he does come back next season, there is no chance he deserves the starting job. He doesn't deserve to start against the Texans and the way he played last night, I don't think he belongs in this league anymore.

TheMalcolmConnection
09-18-2006, 05:07 PM
Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not. ;)

Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience.

SanFranSkinsFan
09-18-2006, 05:08 PM
This has been touched on but not highlighted when arguing for Campbell to start, but I'll make clear my layman thinking.

Raise your hand if you think Brunell is the QB of the future in Wash...:eek:

Of course he's not, and we know that Campbell is our future. New QB's invariably have to work through growing pains and must work their way up the learning curve of the NFL. By all accounts, Brunell is still in the early phases of his learning the Saunders system. Why would we want to suffer though another 10 games of Brunell learning the system just to have Campbell start next year and go through the same 10 game learning curve. Why not kill two birds with one stone, and put the kid in now.

Will he make mistakes, yes for sure. Will he cost us winnable games, maybe a couple. Does all that matter when the current QB can't complete a 10 yard out pattern or get the ball downfield at all? Not to me. As a paying fan, I would rather sit through a 7-9 or 6-10 season with JC at the helm learning how to be a pro and learning the Saunders system so he can come back strong in '07. This applies double when the alternative is to watch Brunell struggle to 8-8 only to get cut or retire at the end of the season.

We are in year 3 of the Brunell experiment and we are about where we started. Enough is enough. I no longer care if Brunell is the best option to "win now". I don't believe he's good enough to take us to the Championship so who cares if he's marginally better than a virgin QB.
I agree completely. I felt like so conflicted last night because I was hoping for Brunell to get benched or worse. Chris Cooley has not done anything yet and Santana didn't get the ball enough (every time he got it he did something). J Campbell can throw the ball 60 yards on a rope, if he still has the arm he had in college. He also runs a 4.6 or 4.7 40 so he could escape and scramble a lot. Brunell can't even get rid of the ball before he gets sacked. He missed so many passes and we need someone with a gun back there. It's JC time, this kid has so much talent, he looks like Randall Cunningham of old.... and hopefully there will be a change this week. I can't believe how bad we are right now, and I don't feel good about even the Texans game. I hope they make the switch soon since we're still in competition for the division, but not if Brunell is QB the rest of the year.

DaveyFoSho
09-18-2006, 05:09 PM
Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not. ;)

Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience.
lol..basically he would probably give up 2-3 turnovers a game....and maybe 1 horrible like really bad game...but does anyone disagree when i say that with him at QB they would put up far more points??? take the bad with the good...he is our future...Brunell is finished!

Twilbert07
09-18-2006, 05:12 PM
lol..basically he would probably give up 2-3 turnovers a game....and maybe 1 horrible like really bad game...but does anyone disagree when i say that with him at QB they would put up far more points??? take the bad with the good...he is our future...Brunell is finished!

Amen. We have to make the switch at some point. And at least with Campbell the games might be a little more entertaining. Brunell is as boring and bland as can be - and all he's "managing" are losses.

SmootSmack
09-18-2006, 05:17 PM
Yup, it's like everyone is so afraid to put in JC. Is it any coicidence that he has the initials of ANOTHER type of Savior? I think not. ;)

Seriously though, the only way he'll learn is by getting game experience.

I mean we all like Joe Crisp, but Savior? That's a bit of a reach don't you think?

What do you think the over/under will be on how many "Campbell Sucks. What a waste of a pick" thread we'll see when Campbell has his first couple of bad games?

But like I said why not put him in, it'd be nice to see some Blame/Bench Campbell threads for a change

Mc2guy
09-18-2006, 05:17 PM
Even when the blitz was getting picked up Brunell was falling out of throws and skipping the ball at receivers feet. At this point, we need to see someone else in there. A player who has the balls to stand in, take the hit and deliver the football. Mark Brunell plays the game scared. He never throws deep and the one time he chose to "gamble" last night was probably one of the worst NFL passes I've ever seen. Mark Brunell looked like a high school quarterback that wandered into an NFL locker room. It was atrocious. He had something like a 26.2 rating before the last drive when he actually completed some passes against the prevent defense. His 67.7 rating after 2 weeks has him at 26th in the NFL.

Jason Campbell may not end up being a franchise quarterback, but there's only one way to find out. If this team is going to lose games early, why not lose them with a player that has a future in this league? Why get the offense in sync with Brunell by week 8 when this should be his last season? Even if he does come back next season, there is no chance he deserves the starting job. He doesn't deserve to start against the Texans and the way he played last night, I don't think he belongs in this league anymore.

Couldn't have said it better (I tried:) ). I have not called for Brunell's benching over the last 2+ years of blissfuly mediocre play. I have finally opened my eyes to what many have been saying for a while. I'm done defending him. No more excuses. In the NFL you are a winner or a loser and Mark Brunell is not a winner. End of story. He can retire in the knowledge that he had a decade plus as a starter in the league, and that he has a LOT of freakin' money, but that's it. Buy him a bus ticket...Jeff George his ass and cut him so no one is tempted to bring him back as a starter when JC struggles.

warriorzpath
09-18-2006, 05:18 PM
I can't believe how bad we are right now, and I don't feel good about even the Texans game. I hope they make the switch soon since we're still in competition for the division, but not if Brunell is QB the rest of the year.

If Brunell loses or looks terrible in the Texans game, that may signal the change to JC.

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