Scoot over Jon Hall, bring in Tyler Jones.

The skins missed the boat on replacing Hall. Anyone they get now will be just as bad. They should have gone after Longwell, Vineteiri or Vanderjadgt. There has never been an offseason with so many good kickers available. Instead the skins chose to spend money on 2 WR's when they only needed 1 and a safety that was not a huge need either. The Redskins and every other team have no respect for the kicker position until they start losing games becasue of it. Look who jumped at top kickers in the offseason...Dallas & Indy...both of whom lost big games on field goal kicking last year. The Redskins will realize it eventually but there will not be the same level of kicker available as was there for them this year.

His kicking like crap and getting hurt is getting old. When his problems are history, so will the bashing. If it means putting him on a Greyhound to solve the problems, so be it. You can't blame us for complaining about his inability to do the job he's paid to do. You ignored my question. When was the last time that he has cost us a game other than the Viking's game?

This is somthing we should have addressed in the offseason, especially with some of the kickers avalible. There is probaboly no better kicker out there right now than Hall, but I'd start getting Frost ready or somthing to make the long balls.

I loved Novack, but I don't trust him from 45 yards anymore than I do Hall. I would bring some competition in, but I feel like we missed an opprotunity to fix that position.

You guys remember when they slowly started phasing Moseley out and used Steve Cox for kick-offs and long field goals? I think the only thing keeping them from doing the same with Hall and Frost is who will hold for Frost? I think they should have worked on using another holder (Collins maybe?) during the preseason.

You guys remember when they slowly started phasing Moseley out and used Steve Cox for kick-offs and long field goals? I think the only thing keeping them from doing the same with Hall and Frost is who will hold for Frost? I think they should have worked on using another holder (Collins maybe?) during the preseason.

Frost can drop kick it to himself.

Hey, its as sane a suggestion as bringing in Nick Novak.

Hall is 23 for 29 in the last 3 seasons. Career 74% success rate. He's not the greatest kicker out there, but better than a lot will give him credit for.

He missed a field goal, but was put in the situation where he was bound to fail. 48 yards (he was shown hitting from 52 before the game), left hash, 22 seconds left...a play that they probably should have gone for it.

John Hall becomes the scapegoat for a game where we had the ball inside the 10 thrice, and thrice only game away with field goals. If the offense puts the ball in the end zone once of those 3 times, we are walking to a victory at that point...

Novak's a good kid, but isn't any better than Hall distance or accuracy wise. As stated before, they should have gone after one of the FAs this year, but instead felt they could trust in John Hall. So until he gets hurt again, or he misses the next 3 in a row...he's gonna be the Skins kicker, and he will make kicks down the stretch when needed.

definitely not hall's fault. it's a kick you want the professional to make, but it's not a gimme (i think someone said something like this before). i agree that it will take another big miss to have me shouting.

I love rational thinking.

It's very underrated too.

You ignored my question. When was the last time that he has cost us a game other than the Viking's game?

Don't forget the fact that he's a starting kicker that is expected to play for his money...he missed weeks 2-8 last year.

Last year we lost in week 5 to Denver by 2 points with a backup kicker we scraped up WHO MISSED A FIELD GOAL.

Also last year in Week 12 we lost in overtime to San Diego. We would've won in regulation time if Hall had not missed a FG with 1:04 left in the game!

In 2004, Hall missed weeks 6-11 AND 15-17. That's 8 games missed. He also had a horrible 72% FG success rate.

In Week 16, with our starting kicker absent again, Jeff Chandler missed a FG and we lost by 3 to Dallas. True again, Hall didn't miss the kick himself, but he should've been on the field since he was getting paid. Kickers should not be hurt so much, it's a penalty if someone even runs into them by accident.

In 2003, Hall actually played every game! However, he missed a quarter of his kicks, 75% on FGs. You think it's not bad? He was 18th in the league in FG%...in the bottom half of all kickers.

Week 3, he missed TWO FGs and we lost by 3 to the Giants.

Week 11, missed a FG, we lost to the Panthers by 3.

Week 16, missed a FG, we lost to the Bears by 3.

You guys remember when they slowly started phasing Moseley out and used Steve Cox for kick-offs and long field goals? I think the only thing keeping them from doing the same with Hall and Frost is who will hold for Frost? I think they should have worked on using another holder (Collins maybe?) during the preseason.

Campbell holds for FGs on Madden. :D