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Southpaw 09-14-2006, 05:47 PM If we had Bledsoe, Collins, Plummer, Kitna, Frye, Losman, Brooks, Carr, Huard or Favre (yes, I said it -- he is one of the worst in the league right now) at QB, then I could understand the reaction. In fact, I would be in a state of panic as well. But we don't.
I'd also like to point out that there are 10 NFL teams with really bad QBs starting for them this week. By comparison (and I can't believe I'm saying this), every Redskin fan should get down on their knees and thank god for #8.
First of all, Losman and Frye have next to no game experience. Favre, Brooks, Carr, Kitna and Collins are all on really BAD teams, and Huard is only playing because Trent Green is out. Bledsoe and Plummer are the only fair comparisons, and the funny thing is, there was a segment on ESPN today, about whether or not Plummer and Bledsoe should be benched. If Brunell continues to put up the kind of numbers he did on Monday, he'll be on that list in a few weeks.
And I sure as hell will not get on my knees for a middle tier, happy feet, scared quarterback, that makes a couple of great plays every three seasons.
LadyT 09-14-2006, 08:58 PM I cannot believe I am here defending #8.
May I suggest:
Eye Surgery Education Council (http://www.lasikinstitute.org/)
Perhaps you would be happier with this team and their four Super Bowl trophies:
The Official Website of the Indianapolis Colts (http://www.colts.com/)
The Steelers, Patriots, Bucs and Ravens all have recent SB rings without "game breakers" at QB.
Perhaps you have forgotten what it has been like to have our QB losing game after game with stupid mistakes. I'm thrilled to see #8 throw that ball out of bounds instead of:
-Sack
-Penalty
-INT
-Fumble
The passing game struggles last year cannot be hung on MB. He had one quality WR. Of course the passing game is going to struggle. Against MN, Betts kept putting us in 2nd and 3rd and long. The most important (and most overlooked) QB stat is TD/INT ratio. Last year, MB was 2/1. That is outstanding. It was a big reason why we were able to get into the playoffs even though we were not getting any major juice from the passing game.
I feel like the Kevin Bacon character in Animal House yelling "Don't Panic!" in the middle of the riot.
If we had Bledsoe, Collins, Plummer, Kitna, Frye, Losman, Brooks, Carr, Huard or Favre (yes, I said it -- he is one of the worst in the league right now) at QB, then I could understand the reaction. In fact, I would be in a state of panic as well. But we don't.
I'd also like to point out that there are 10 NFL teams with really bad QBs starting for them this week. By comparison (and I can't believe I'm saying this), every Redskin fan should get down on their knees and thank god for #8.
We'll just have to agree to disagree about Brunell's capabilities, I guess. I'm not in panic mode, but I am very frustrated by Brunell's play and have been for some time.
But enough about my opinion. You'd be very interested to hear what Sonny J. has to say about Brunell, I would assume, as would all Redskins fans. After all, if he doesn't know the QB position, then who does? A relative of mine (who knows Sonny well) actually discussed Brunell's merits with ole Sonny recently. In deference to Sonny, I won't repeat what he said. Suffice it to say his indictment of Brunell was far worse than mine.
Favre is on a bad team, period.
Put him on a good team and he would look much better.
Good team or not, have you seen Favre lately and all of last season? THE QB throws the INT, not the reciever.... He's done, he should have retired last year.
budw38 09-14-2006, 09:45 PM My point is that only a few Qb,s are capable of winning games without a great running game . We need to run in order to set up play action . And I would point to our struggles in third and 4 Plus yds is not very good . I agree that he needs more time , and that will come with a strong running game . Very few teams can win a Championship throwing first . You may be correct saying that Brunell can pass for 4,000 yds , but we will not win if we throw it that much , He will get hit too many times and none of our Wr's are going to hold up if they are getiing hit that often , we do not have 210 lb Wr's. I don't want 3 yds and a cloud of dust , I just believe we HAVE to run in order to win , and I think we can .
budw38 09-14-2006, 09:58 PM we will see i hope your right but i wouldnt bet on it. Listen were all skins fans but maybe i have stop drinking the Danny Coolaid, i have seen the real world What up boy ! We need to stick with that running game , Don't ya think ! I say ,, RUN ,,, RUN ,,, RUN some more , when they bring there safeties up ,,, go deep !!!
budw38 09-14-2006, 10:02 PM Hopefully we will run more , dictate to the defence , when they walk their safeties up , make them pay for it going over the top ! Im sure our defence would also like us to run and control the clock .
cowboykiller89 09-15-2006, 03:22 PM All I know is what I see and what I see is that the weakest link on the offense is QB and has been for some time. It's a sad state of affairs when all you can credit the QB with is two games in a 16-game season. I'll repeat - he's rarely if ever the reason we win games and, for a QB, that's pathetic. I don't want a QB who mostly "doesn't lose games for us". QBs should be game breakers and control the flow of the game for their team. Brunell might do that 2 or 3 games a year, at best.
Problem is - there's no one else on the bench who's ready to take us all the way right now. Campbell may become that QB, but he's untested. I've seen all I want to see of what Brunell has to offer and it is game after game where we score 9, 10, 12, maybe 16 or 17 points. Again, pathetic, given the talent that surrounds him.
Oh okay, I forgot, it was not Mark Brunell who lead the team to a 10-6 WINNING season, and not to mention the playoffs, including a win over the Bucs last year right? And all of this after such a long playoff drought which included a losing streak against the Cowboys! So are you also telling me that Mark Brunell was to blame for last week's loss? Did he not get the ball to Moss in the end zone? Was it not a perfect pass? It's not Mark's fault that Moss dropped it; that would have been the game and this discussion would not exist if Moss had held on to it!! It's not always about the quarterback, what the heck has Indianapolis done? Do they not have one of the best quarterbacks in the league with a ton of talent surrounding him as well? What have they accomplished? ZERO!!! Same goes for McNabb and the Eagles, Michael Vick and the Falcons!! You just need to learn to be patient, it's not going to happen overnight! Things will definitley get better as they get the new offensive strategy down. Look at it this way, we've already scored almost twice as many more points this season than at this same point last year; and mind you it came in a losing effort!
CrazyCanuck 09-15-2006, 04:49 PM We have bigger problems than Brunell.
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