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Hail2em 09-12-2006, 12:27 AM yeah the kicking game needs attention, but we lost due to not stopping them on 3rd downs!!!! 3rd down conversions killed us!!!! they were 9-17 on 3rd downs and it seemed they were better then 53% even though hall missed it you cant really blame him solely. blame the D if you want to say someone let us down.
The defense was a bigger letdown than Hall missing that kick.
We gave up way too many 3rd down conversions. The game shouldn't have been that close.
We also needed to come away with another TD when we got in the redzone.
A 48 yarder isn't exactly a chip shot, and the Vikings got pressure too which caused Hall to rush it a bit.
Beemnseven 09-12-2006, 12:31 AM The late hit on Sean Taylor was BS. The facemask penalty was correctly called.
What stood out to me tonight was how the secondary got shredded. I've wondered for a long time about Carlos Rogers. Maybe he still needs to mature as a player, but he had a rough night. So did Wright. So did Rumph. So did Archuleta.
Pass defense is going to be a serious problem until Springs gets back. Add this to the fact that there was STILL no consistent pass rush outside of Demetric Evans, and you've got quite a dilemma on defense. I was surprised at how conservative Gregg Williams was tonight. Not many blitzes -- for the most of the game, he had everybody sit back and stay in their zones, only to get picked apart. Andre Carter was non-existant, (as I feared he would be) and Daniels got banged up. So far, I've seen nothing to indicate that these two defensive ends are anything special.
Bottom line ... I shudder to think what Owens, Glenn and Witten will do to this secondary next Sunday night.
sniks 09-12-2006, 12:40 AM Arent you guys worried we cant score more than 20 pts in a game?How many times last season did we, not too many.Giving up 19 pts isnt that bad considering how bad the defense played.We cant win without scoring TDs too many field goals.
The late hit on Sean Taylor was BS. The facemask penalty was correctly called.
What stood out to me tonight was how the secondary got shredded. I've wondered for a long time about Carlos Rogers. Maybe he still needs to mature as a player, but he had a rough night. So did Wright. So did Rumph. So did Archuleta.
Pass defense is going to be a serious problem until Springs gets back. Add this to the fact that there was STILL no consistent pass rush outside of Demetric Evans, and you've got quite a dilemma on defense. I was surprised at how conservative Gregg Williams was tonight. Not many blitzes -- for the most of the game, he had everybody sit back and stay in their zones, only to get picked apart. Andre Carter was non-existant, (as I feared he would be) and Daniels got banged up. So far, I've seen nothing to indicate that these two defensive ends are anything special.
Bottom line ... I shudder to think what Owens, Glenn and Witten will do to this secondary next Sunday night.
Look at the Vikes offensive line, specifically that left side, and you can see why we didn't generate much pressure. Take away Springs and of course GW can't be as aggressive.
The Cowboys don't have that kind of an offensive line.
It will be a different story next week.
RedskinPete 09-12-2006, 12:50 AM The D was bad but the O was as bad. You can't win many games going 4-12 in third downs while the Vikings were 8-16. Our O line has some holes and back ups are thin at best. If you can't run it is hard to pass.
Gmanc711 09-12-2006, 12:54 AM Frost had one bad punt tonight. Let's lay off him he wasn't a problem.
Hall hit 3 of 4 and missed a long one at the end. I'm not ready to cut him over that.
The game shouldn't have come down to him having to hit a 48 yarder.
He has missed one kick too many for me, its not really about to tonight...he's missed soooooooo many feild goals over the past three seasons, in clutch situations that its time to let him go. A NFL Kicker needs to make a 47 yard feild goal 4 times out of 5, and he has missed enough feild goals for me to see him go tommraow. He's got more job security than the freaking president right now.
I dont want an NFL kicker that can make 24 yarders all day long, because you can find a good division three soccer player to do that, we need someone who can win games for us. Theres a reason Mark Mosley was the MVP; and thats because he was the difference in alot of games. Hall has had the chance to be the difference in alot of games just going through last year....TB1, SD, SEA playoff game, Tonight...the guy has to come through once in a while, and since the 2003 season, he hasent.
hooskins 09-12-2006, 12:57 AM The defense was a bigger letdown than Hall missing that kick.
We gave up way too many 3rd down conversions. The game shouldn't have been that close.
We also needed to come away with another TD when we got in the redzone.
A 48 yarder isn't exactly a chip shot, and the Vikings got pressure too which caused Hall to rush it a bit.
Are you kidding, Matty I hope you saw Hall's other two kicks, they barely went in, and looked terrible, yeah defense was bad, Hall was worst.
Ok so let's cut Hall tomorrow after going 3 of 4.
Who do we bring in?
Please don't say Novak.
Beemnseven 09-12-2006, 12:59 AM Look at the Vikes offensive line, specifically that left side, and you can see why we didn't generate much pressure. Take away Springs and of course GW can't be as aggressive.
The Vikings have assembled a good line, no question. But Andre Carter was brought here to answer that.
Springs being out only makes it more vital that there be more pressure from the front four.
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