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vaoutlaws2006 09-11-2006, 10:41 PM the disappointment for me was that shawn springs wasnt in the game. without springs the defensive scheme was very limited. When you have two has beens or been NEVER beens (wright and rumph) and one potential corner against a very experienced qb you will get these results. We cant dwell on this loss. Its dallas week now. Learn from mistakes and regroup. Oh and by the way can someone say missed opportunities in the red zone. Some of the play calling when we were in the redzone was a little suspect. Hey and where was cooley?
skinsfanthru&thru 09-11-2006, 10:44 PM defense for the fact that it was expected to help pick up the slack until the offense completely came together. the blitz packages only worked a couple times in the Skins favor, but most of the time left the defense wide open to be picked apart on third down conversions. Rogers needs to learn to actually turn around and play the ball. The offense was very hit or miss, but the encouraging part about the offense was that there were a few times when players like Moss, Portis, and ARE were just an ankle tackle away from busting long plays.
and I don't like to complain too much about the refs but when they made that bs PF foul call on Taylor, the same call should have been made on the viking player who gave a forearm to the back of Lloyd's helmet after the ball was gone on the final drive.
NYCSkin 09-11-2006, 10:46 PM Defense for sure. No pash rush. Poor secondary play. Rogers has to make that leap this year. I am not upset at Rumph or Wright but Rogers has to start playing like a top 10 pick at this point in his career.
Schneed10 09-11-2006, 10:48 PM We lost this game in the trenches. On both sides of the ball, really. But more so on defense. Griffin and Salave'a were dominated by Hutchinson and Birk. We didn't hear our DTs' names called all night long.
Not enough people gave enough credit to the Vikings going into this game. That line is fierce. Griffin and Salave'a couldn't hold up at the point of attack. In the beginning of the game the LBs were filling well enough to make up for it and keep Chester Taylor mostly in check. But as the game wore on, we got tired and got pounded as the Vikes marched down and made it 19-16.
Coverage was a pretty big problem too. We got lucky that Troy Williamson didn't burn us for 150 receiving yards. He dropped a lot of balls where he was wide open.
Bozzy 09-11-2006, 11:06 PM I just got back from the bar.... it was a good game... not lopsided or anything but the defense shouldn't have given up those two TDs...I'm pretty drunk so what do I know...lol
redsk1 09-11-2006, 11:20 PM The defense was bad. Almost no pressure on Johnson. Mostly though our corners looked pretty bad. Had Williamson actually caught a few more it could have been worse. The vikes have a better team than i thought. It was a tough game but we good teams pull these out.
Offensively, we did ok. We left a lot of points out there by kicking fg's intead of td's.
hurrykaine 09-11-2006, 11:21 PM I know he's not a game changer, but our secondary suffered a bad loss when Prioleau went out without being touched during the opening kick-off. When stuff like that happens, you know its not going to be your day.
What was Cartwright doing returning kickoffs? Please put John Hall out of his misery and cut him - its become painful to watch. I'm actually excited about our offense though.
Prediction. TO and co will eat us alive next week, and we'll be 0-2 before recovering to win some games. Beyond that, its too early to say, though I can see losses to the Colts, Jacksonville, and one apiece to the Cowboys, G-men and Eagles.
Paintrain 09-11-2006, 11:21 PM I put that loss on the defense. The offense made it into the red zone 4 times and within scoring range another. You can't let a team off of their own goal line (bad penalty notwithstanding) ever. You can't let a team convert 53% on 3rd down. You can't let Brad Johnson, Troy Williamson, Chester Taylor and Travis Taylor make big plays on you, ever. Especially at home. I'd hate to be in practice Wednesday if I was on Williams D but he needs to do 40 up-downs himself for that vanilla defense he called..
Big C 09-11-2006, 11:31 PM easily the defense. they allowed our offense to have the ball so few times it was rediculous. every vikings drive milked the clock, this defense was supposed to be top 5, it looked nowhere near that against what wasnt supposed to be a great offense of the vikings. the offense didnt do too bad, they just didnt get many chances
Beemnseven 09-11-2006, 11:46 PM Gregg Williams just didn't seem as fierce with his game plan tonight. Maybe that had something to do with an inexperienced secondary (and boy, did they show it). I expected Brad Johnson to be attacked, harassed, and thrown around like a rag doll. Not even close.
And we STILL do not get pressure on the quarterback with the front four. So far, Andre Carter has not impressed. He and Daniels aren't going to scare anybody. Griffin, Saleve'a, and Golston are fine when the defense as a whole is hitting on all cylinders. But when you allow 8 yards on first down, you've got life easy on 2nd and 2. That's when the Vikings running game was effective.
At some point, you have to expect more out of cornerback taken at #9 overall in the draft. Make no mistake, there are big question marks with Carlos Rogers. With or without Springs, I believe this secondary is in serious trouble.
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