Where will the 'Skins rank defensively?

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]<ing
06-02-2004, 12:43 PM
On a tangent: I hope none of you guys ever boo our team when you get out to the stadium, no matter how bad a season they are having. I went to many games while I was up there, and never once booed our guys. I did plenty of it directed at officials, Cowboys and other opponents, but NEVER at the Redskins. I hate hearing them booed in our own stadium.
agreed

mizzo skins man
06-02-2004, 08:23 PM
I voted top 20, I think they won't move up much until they address their D-line problems.

SkinsRock
06-03-2004, 09:43 AM
I voted top ten. One word: Coaching. Williams will get them playing to their potential.

larsen_lane@bah.com
06-03-2004, 10:04 AM
Top 10- Not only will better coaching on defense take hold, but a much better Joe Gibbs offense will keep the opponents offense off the field more....

SmootSmack
06-03-2004, 10:07 AM
Top 10- Not only will better coaching on defense take hold, but a much better Joe Gibbs offense will keep the opponents offense off the field more....


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sportscurmudgeon
06-03-2004, 10:14 AM
No matter what you think, I am NOT the one who voted "Bottom of the Barrel". So there... :)

MTK
06-03-2004, 12:12 PM
Funny because when I saw a vote for bottom of the barrel I immediately thought of you SC, sorry for jumping to conclusions! LOL

Defensewins
06-03-2004, 02:53 PM
On a tangent: I hope none of you guys ever boo our team when you get out to the stadium, no matter how bad a season they are having. I went to many games while I was up there, and never once booed our guys. I did plenty of it directed at officials, Cowboys and other opponents, but NEVER at the Redskins. I hate hearing them booed in our own stadium.

I agree with you up to a certain point. I will never BOO the Redskins along as they play hard. Ocassional mental mistakes/bad reads/losses are part of the game and I will never Boo them for that. However if the team plays with no effort/energy or attitude, I will voice my displeasure. These guys get paid a ton of money and I do not accept lack of effort.

Hogskin
06-03-2004, 03:26 PM
Well, to each his own, I guess. To me, once some people decide it is OK to boo the guys because THEY think the team is dogging it, it gets a lot easier for them and others to boo them any other time. I saw it happen a lot on TV over the past few years when they were down, and it was very disappointing to me. When I used to go to games (through 1989), it seemed the Redskin fans were a cut above the rest, and virtually always supported our guys. Booing the home team was left to Eagles and Giants fans. But I guess some of that happens everywhere, now. But, hopefully, our fans will never sink to the level of Eagles fans LOL!!!! (We haven't even come close, yet).

Another point about perceived "dogging". If that, indeed, is what is happening on the field, booing is never going to help. In George Allen's tenure, he was very vocal during the week about what he expected from the fans. It started with a long standing ovation during introductions, and continued with undiminished support for the team. I was at the stadium many times when things were not going well, sometimes play looked a bit sluggish, the fans had gotten quiet, and THEN: The fans gradually began cheering or chanting until the stadium was erupting with noise. Several times it did seem to motivate the players. Allen always talked about how much the 12th player meant, and WE all bought into it. It did not ALWAYS work, but teams hated playing here. Nothing motivates a visiting team more than hearing the home team getting booed.

Most of that fan attitude carried into Joe Gibbs' years here. I sure hope it has returned with his return!! I would rather see someone quietly head toward the exits than give our opponents the satisfaction of hearing them boo the Redskins.

Beemnseven
06-03-2004, 10:56 PM
OK, so who did vote "Bottom of the Barrell"???

If it's supposed to be anonymous that's fine, but I'd like to hear why whoever it was thinks they'll be that bad.

I voted Top 10.

My only areas of concern are D-line, and pass coverage in the secondary. I'll be watching Shawn Springs closely to see what kind of dropoff we'll see there. Haley, Griffin, and Noble are going to be the keys to the defense. If opposing teams can run on us, and the linebackers, who are supposedly responsible for all the QB pressure, are all in the backfield while the running back is carrying the ball 5 yards through the line, then we'll be in real trouble. But I'm sure Gregg Williams won't let that happen over and over -- unlike the last coordinator we had. So coaching by itself should present a significant upgrade.

I believe we will see much more of a swarming, attacking defense that plays cohesively. There will be an adjustment period where big plays will happen, but by mid season (hopefully before) everything will come together just fine.

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