Why I feel there is reason for concern:

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DrFaust
08-23-2006, 09:59 AM
Yes, I know. Gibbs won 3 of them.

What was Gibbs' preseason record for the three years he won the Superbowl?

TheMalcolmConnection
08-23-2006, 10:00 AM
You really think Cooley would say anything else even if the team was terrified that they couldn't do anything right. Nope, not on ESPN Radio that's the home of the Redskins. Not saying anything huge, but you can take players comments for a grain of salt. It's like expecting to get the news from a coach and it not being totally slanted.

I dunno. I'd expect Cooley to be a bit more candid though and at least say something like, "Sure, we're a little concerned, but come September 11th, ___________."

Of course it's slanted, but I would think if anyone would put at least a shred of truth in it, it would be him.

DrFaust
08-23-2006, 10:00 AM
I thought this was interesting:

"People who think preseason football is meaningless don't know anything about football."
--Bill Parcells

cpayne5
08-23-2006, 10:11 AM
What was Gibbs' preseason record for the three years he won the Superbowl?
16-21 The nine seasons he went to the playoffs.
0-4 for the 82 Super Bowl season.
1-3 for the 91 Super Bowl season.
3-1 (1988) & 3-2 (2004) the two losing seasons he had.

I couldn't find stats for the 83 or 87 Super Bowl years.

cpayne5
08-23-2006, 10:15 AM
I thought this was interesting:

"People who think preseason football is meaningless don't know anything about football."
--Bill Parcells
I don't think anyone here is saying that preseason football is meaningless. What's meaningless are the records and the knee-jerk reactions that it causes. From a superficial standpoint, going 0-4 during the preseason is cause for concern. If you delve deeper into the scenarios, situations, play calling, players utilized, etc etc etc etc etc etc, you start to realize that the only meaningful things gained from preseason football in most cases are the case by case player evlauations that are being made.

DrFaust
08-23-2006, 10:18 AM
16-21 The nine seasons he went to the playoffs.
0-4 for the 82 Super Bowl season.
1-3 for the 91 Super Bowl season.
3-1 (1988) & 3-2 (2004) the two losing seasons he had.

I couldn't find stats for the 83 or 87 Super Bowl years.

Thanks for the stats.

It would be nice to have those stats for 83 and 87. Without them, it is hard to say that Gibbs' preseason record doesn't matter. But if you just want to go to the playoffs, then we have nothing to worry about. If you want to win the Superbowl, then there might be reason for concern.

MTK
08-23-2006, 10:24 AM
I don't think anyone here is saying that preseason football is meaningless. What's meaningless are the records and the knee-jerk reactions that it causes. From a superficial standpoint, going 0-4 during the preseason is cause for concern. If you delve deeper into the scenarios, situations, play calling, players utilized, etc etc etc etc etc etc, you start to realize that the only meaningful things gained from preseason football in most cases are the case by case player evlauations that are being made.

cpayne speaking the truth as always, preach on brother!

derrickskins
08-23-2006, 10:27 AM
My concern is that Gibbs started camp late because 98% of the playes particpated in all offseason OTA's. Some players were at Redskins Park every day. You play as you practice and preseason games are basically practices. There is a very legitime reason for concern, and if you aren't concerned now, you don't know football. As badly as this team is playing now, anyone who dismisses this as preseason vanilla football will be the same ones reading the Post Tuesday morning going, "How did they lose so badly to Minnesota?" You can't just flip a switch, or game plan crisp playing. I agree with the observation that every other NFC East team's first team looks dominant. Each team has gone right down the field and scored. I will point out one very, very positive thing, not too many penalites.

firstdown
08-23-2006, 10:28 AM
Just for a good example remember how bad Big Ben played last year in preseason and all the int's. he threw. Pits looke terrible last year in preseason and alot of people where saying that Ben was now feeling the effects and speed of the NFL. We all know what the out come of that was. Look at the other teams that have not won a preseason game colts, tenn., buf., pits., kc., and us most all made the playoffs.I think certain teams and coaches approach preseason differently. Yes I have some concerns but until we see them on Sept 11th its just to hard to tell what kind of team we have.

cpayne5
08-23-2006, 10:29 AM
There is a very legitime reason for concern, and if you aren't concerned now, you don't know football.

That is an ignorant statement.

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