Lou Holtz wanted Skins Job

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Monkeydad
08-22-2006, 05:50 PM
you dont sound very football educated... Holtz did great at SC considering the reign before him. second, how many "chimps" coached ND to a National title since Holtz? Don Davies? Willingham?

I think holtz would have been a much wiser decision over spurrier, but , im glad the way it happened too... to end up getting MR JOE.

Oh but I AM football educated. :)

A school like ND will attract top players because of their tradition no matter who is the coach.

Every school Holtz left soon went on probation from the NCAA because of rules he violated. It happened to Arkansas, Minnesota, Notre Dame AND South Carolina. (Arkansas didn't go on probation back then but they did suffer from him).

He wasn't as good of a coach as his record indicates considering he cheated so much.



SC was 33-37 under Holtz. Sure they were horrible before he came, but they weren't much better after he left record-wise and when you consider the probation and loss of scholarships from his rule-breaking, it could be argued they were worse off.

COLLEGE FOOTBALL: Holtz breaks rules, but everyone else must pay (http://www.coxnetspecialedition.com/se/content/sports/07/24holtz.html)
South Carolina gets three years probation for violations - NCAAF - Yahoo! Sports (http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/news?slug=gamecocksviolations&prov=st&type=lgns)

dmek25
08-22-2006, 08:23 PM
buster i have to disagree with you. just how well did bob davies and ty willingham do after holtz? and i remember holtz with the jets as a disaster but.... i also remember bellicheks first coaching job with the browns. so, you just never know

TrustinGibbs
08-22-2006, 10:43 PM
Lou Holtz IMO is head and shoulders better than Spurrier at any level. How much success has ANY Notre Dame coach pre-Weis had in the past 25 years, only Holtz found a way to win under that kind of pressure and with the higher admission standards at Notre Dame. Holtz rebuilt programs and restored them to prominance, he was a truely great motivator and a winner wherever he went other than a short lived stint in the NFL many years ago. Still do we ever bring back Gibbs if Holtz came aboard and did his usual stellar job of resesitating the many teams he coached here in Washington...hard to say...and I'd rather have Gibbs than any coach, living or dead.

mike340
08-23-2006, 03:53 AM
Sorry TrustinGibbs,
I would only take Gibbs if he was alive. ;-)

Daseal
08-23-2006, 09:02 AM
Well, situation depends a lot for both players and coaches. Bellichek failed horribly in Cleveland and now he's some genius who does everything right.

redskinsfanatic
08-23-2006, 10:20 AM
Very interesting read:

The Sun News | 08/13/2006 | Skins wanted Spurrier, Holtz wanted NFL (http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/15263938.htm)

It appears Holtz really had a plan for this team. And to think we got Spurrier...

i may hurl!please do'nt mention steve spurrier again.he was/is a joke at the nfl level!anyhow,we got the best coach ever back,and even if they do'nt win another superbowl,it was well worth it because he gives us a better chance to win every week!

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