Thrash, Espy or Farris

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diehardskin2982
08-20-2006, 08:42 PM
Farris did well last year but wasn't clutch in the playoffs. I go with thrash

SmootSmack
08-20-2006, 08:49 PM
Has anyone fallen from grace faster than Espy since just Saturday afternoon?

mooby
08-20-2006, 08:53 PM
Not that i know of. He had a horrible outing last night. I think he'll go to the practice squad, Thrash makes the team.

3rd ID SOLDIER
08-20-2006, 09:29 PM
the line backer that was guarding him fell down on that play!

dgack
08-20-2006, 09:32 PM
You guys are being a little hard on Espy, considering that Patten dropped 3 catchable balls and pulled up hard on one that he could have had, I only saw Espy drop one and it was a classic "hit him right in the numbers and bounced off" rookie thing.

He ran HARD on every return, and played well last game, I'm surprised how quickly everyone's ready to write the kid off..

Skin Patrol
08-20-2006, 09:37 PM
dgack-

I think it's mostly a function of necessity. Espy knows he is on the bubble, he absolutely needed a big game, and he dropped some passes.

It disturbs me that Patten can't catch the ball, but he's a veteran and Joe Gibbs prefers a veteran guy. He's also proven that he can play on the NFL level; Espy has not.

Seriously though, I'm extremely pleased with our depth at WR regardless of what happens. Patten and Thrash could both be #3 on some teams. I think the Skins are one of the strongest receiving teams in the nation.

bertoskins2
08-20-2006, 09:41 PM
pleasee we should sign espy eventhough he has a horrible game
sign him as a kr/pr

dgack
08-20-2006, 09:56 PM
dgack-

I think it's mostly a function of necessity. Espy knows he is on the bubble, he absolutely needed a big game, and he dropped some passes.

It disturbs me that Patten can't catch the ball, but he's a veteran and Joe Gibbs prefers a veteran guy. He's also proven that he can play on the NFL level; Espy has not.

Seriously though, I'm extremely pleased with our depth at WR regardless of what happens. Patten and Thrash could both be #3 on some teams. I think the Skins are one of the strongest receiving teams in the nation.

Yeah, I hear what you're saying, I guess I think of it almost in the opposite: a guy running full bore on kickoff returns who nervously botches a catch or two, versus a fairly high profile veteran who hasn't produced anything, really, since he arrived, and he's kind of dogging it out there, short-arming, pulling up, and flat-out dropping 'em.

I obviously agree with you that Patten has more talent out of the box right now, because we know very little about Espy. But I'm much more interested a young dude with fire who's a little raw than an experienced but (IMO) pretty lackluster old dude, personally. At least Espy can still improve. I really don't expect to see new heights of production out of Patten; if anything it seems like he's sulking over the signings of Randle-El and Lloyd.

Funny, Patrick and Riggins even mentioned last night that Gibbs said something to the effect of, we aren't concerned about the health of of the O-Line because they could just trade Patten for a backup any time they needed to. It's almost like he's just there for trade currency.

Skin Patrol
08-20-2006, 10:14 PM
I'm agreeing with you on much of that. It's disappointing the way Patten has been playing, particularly because of all the noise we've heard about how Patten isn't concerned with the WR situation and "just wants the opportunity to play". It hasn't looked that way so far.

And I'm also open to your point about young blood. We're talking about a 5th receiver spot. This isn't a guy we will be using on offense that often, so having a potential upside, even one that isn't readily apparent, goes a big way.

The way I look at it is this: if Moss, ARE, or Lloyd get injured, who do I want coming in on 3 receiver sets? Is it Espy, or is it Patten? I want Patten. I think he's proven himself as a reliable 3rd receiver in this league, and I just don't know about Espy. I'll take the sure bet any day.

SmootSmack
08-20-2006, 10:21 PM
The practice squad is perfect for a guy like Espy. You let him practice with the team all season, in the spring you send him to NFL Europe. By next summer he's ready to compete for a more prominent position with the team.

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