Any Positives From Tonight's Game?

its pretty obvious that saunders and company are showing nothing, and pretty much restricting the offense. i think an onsides kick and a double reverse in a preseason game is a bit much. everyone around here needs to relax until the real deal starts

In his postgame interview, Mark Brunell refuted the notion that "vanilla offense" is what's handicapping them. If the coaches are calling simple plays, then it should not require anything other than simple execution. So far, the starting offense has not demonstrated that. Other than 3 good passing plays (one to Lloyd last week, and two tonight to Randle El), the starters are having trouble going more than 3 play before having to punt.

One other thing -- pointing this out doesn't indicate "panic" or that we all need to "relax." It's an observation, that's all. The only one who showed anything close to panic tonight, was Joe Gibbs. What does that tell you?

lets look at it this way. straight up formations with little or no motion or movement. alot easier to play defense against. and the point about gibbs doesnt carry alot of weight because ever since coach gibbs has been here, does anyone ever remember a time when he has stated publicly that he was satisfied with his team?

We are experiencing the affects of change. We added quite a few new players, a new [or different] coordinator on offense and a 700 page playbook. When you have a group of players who have not had a lot of reps together to prepare for game like situations it takes time for all the pieces to come together. We also had a short camp with limited contact and players playing in games who were not here from the beginning. We are coming to see the pre-season hype has to be transformed into solid play on the field. I'm going to take all things considered and beleive that as we continue to become familiar with each other things will look better. Right now just about everyone is disappointed with the team for one reason or another but soon I think we'll begin to build on the momentum we established at the end of last season. We have good leadership on this team and I'm convinced that will be our salvation.
Pardon my rant, but I feel these factors are important to consider.

i miss the red pants. maybe thats it.

Maybe we should switch back to the red pants, we've lost our last three games where we've worn all white.

you seconding the motion?

lets look at it this way. straight up formations with little or no motion or movement. alot easier to play defense against. and the point about gibbs doesnt carry alot of weight because ever since coach gibbs has been here, does anyone ever remember a time when he has stated publicly that he was satisfied with his team?


We can look at any way we want. My point is, the players and the coaches don't look at it like, "it's just preseason, don't worry about it," or, "chalk it up to a 'vanilla' offense." That's called fan-speak. Trust me, anyone who puts on a uniform with their name stitched on it can't be anything but ashamed by their performance over the past two games, preseason or not.

And there's a difference between Joe Gibbs' propensity for cautious skepticism and being straight out pissed off at the way his team looked.

We are experiencing the affects of change. We added quite a few new players, a new [or different] coordinator on offense and a 700 page playbook. When you have a group of players who have not had a lot of reps together to prepare for game like situations it takes time for all the pieces to come together. We also had a short camp with limited contact and players playing in games who were not here from the beginning. We are coming to see the pre-season hype has to be transformed into solid play on the field. I'm going to take all things considered and beleive that as we continue to become familiar with each other things will look better. Right now just about everyone is disappointed with the team for one reason or another but soon I think we'll begin to build on the momentum we established at the end of last season. We have good leadership on this team and I'm convinced that will be our salvation.
Pardon my rant, but I feel these factors are important to consider.

That's fine, but like everyone has been saying -- we're running a VANILLA offense! You can't dismiss the offense's performance to a complex playbook when all we keep hearing is that the plays are too simple or "vanilla."

from the looks of the starters that were sitting on the bench in the latter part of the game, they didnt seem to concerned about a whole lot. they understand that players make up a sucessful situation, and some of the players that participated last night will not be around come opening day.all im saying is the final product is far from what we saw last night

Havent seen the game yet because I have no local market here, but I'll catch the NFL Network rerun @ 2 today.

Really, really not worried about the preseason at all.

Is Griffin OK? Has anyone heard?

If anyone is actually upset about this game...
It IS preseason. Super Bowl year we went 0-4 and Gibbs was furious the entire training camp. Mark my words, this is all going according to PLAN. Minnesota better look out.

If anyone is actually upset about this game...
It IS preseason. Super Bowl year we went 0-4 and Gibbs was furious the entire training camp. Mark my words, this is all going according to PLAN. Minnesota better look out.
the colts went 0-5 in the preseason last year, then won their next 13 games