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VTSkins897 08-14-2006, 10:43 AM i agree with giving him the benefit of the doubt for now; he seems to be frustrated..
regarding the INT, it looked to me like Brandon Lloyd went inside when he should have gone out. i didn't look at any replays but usually when a ball is thrown that poorly, it's miscommunication. what do you guys think?
we'll be fine come the start of the season.
pre-season is lame... except i guess to get some of the potential team-makers playing
Southpaw 08-14-2006, 10:44 AM He basically said the coaches should have taken him out before the first series was over. If he meant what it sounded like he said. = dumb comment.
For the record; When Stephen Davis came back from his ankle injury a few years back, he ran the ball on Washington's first offensive play of the preseason, gained 12 yards, and came out of the game. LaDainian Tomlinson runs an average of two plays in the first preseason game of each season. It's not unusual for a team to pull the starting tailback after only a few plays, especially if they're the unquestioned starter.
Southpaw 08-14-2006, 10:47 AM regarding the INT, it looked to me like Brandon Lloyd went inside when he should have gone out. i didn't look at any replays but usually when a ball is thrown that poorly, it's miscommunication. what do you guys think?
In his post game comments, Brunell said he was attempting to throw the ball out of bounds, and said he was mad at himself for not putting enough on it to get it out.
BigSKINBauer 08-14-2006, 10:53 AM For the record; When Stephen Davis came back from his ankle injury a few years back, he ran the ball on Washington's first offensive play of the preseason, gained 12 yards, and came out of the game. LaDainian Tomlinson runs an average of two plays in the first preseason game of each season. It's not unusual for a team to pull the starting tailback after only a few plays, especially if they're the unquestioned starter.
There are many, many examples of the opposite. Gibbs wasn't working portis to the bone or anything. He ran a different formation on every play on that drive by the way. They were just trying different things out. Portis ran one play. Gibbs/Saunders didn't want portis to be overworked so he gave him a single run. Its not like they would know he would try and become a wrestler and body slam a defender to the ground.
Coaches don't have to do it. If they choose to take someone out that is fine but the coaches weren't wreckless here. They didn't give portis 8 runs or a first quarter. They didn't make a mistake. What happened, happened. Coaches can't be to be put at fault for this. It was a series and to put this on a coach is dumb. I don't even know if that is what he was doing but if it was it was dumb. My opinion, my homer, band wagon, supposed fan opinion.
memphisskin 08-14-2006, 10:59 AM Well if the owners and coaches are not going to play the starters for at least a portion of the time during the preseason, why should I as a season ticket holder be required to pay full fare to watch this mess. I am forced into buying my preseason games every year and go because I pay for the ticket. Now you have a player saying he shouldn't be playing. Well I shouldn't be paying. While it might be a crime to potentially lose a starter for openning day it is just as much of a crime to charge me to watch people practicing.
Your beef is with the owners, not the players. the problem is that as the offseason programs have changed, the model we use for the season has not. The preseason is just one long dress rehearsal, and to potentially lose someone as important as Portis in the first preseason game to accomodate fans makes no sense. What's the reward for Portis to be playing in the preseason? Portis has a point, he has nothing to prove, and that time could go to a rookie who is fighting to make the team. The rooks can't play with the vets on the field.
BigSKINBauer 08-14-2006, 11:06 AM A single drive. If the same thing happened to brunell and he said this i seriously think the opinions would be far different. They weren't appeasing the tens of thousands of redskin fans in cinci, they were doing what they felt was best for the team.
Rudi johnson ran it 3 times and stayed in 3 series under real pressure and hard tackles. I wonder what action the league should take against our old d-cordinator.
All i am saying is that portis wasn't put in a position that was out of the ordinary.
I guess my beef is with the owners, but Portis should really shut up and understand that he is not above everyone else. My point is that if he is not going to play then why should I be forced into payinng full fare.
BigSKINBauer 08-14-2006, 11:11 AM I guess my beef is with the owners, but Portis should really shut up and understand that he is not above everyone else. My point is that if he is not going to play then why should I be forced into payinng full fare.
my cousin asked me if i wanted to go to the jets game next week. So i was like hell yeah. He goes, oh no, i can't use my tickets do you want to buy them, $75 each. I laughed real hard. I think the owners should lower prices for pre-season games. They won't though because they just package them together with the other tickets. Its sad.
JWsleep 08-14-2006, 11:12 AM A single drive. If the same thing happened to brunell and he said this i seriously think the opinions would be far different. They weren't appeasing the tens of thousand redskin fans in cinci, they were doing what they felt was best for the team.
Rudi johnson ran it 3 times and stayed in 3 series under real pressure and hard tackles. I wonder what action the league should take against our old d-cordinator.
All i am saying is that portis wasn't put in a position that was out of the ordinary.
I agree, BSB. Well put.
memphisskin 08-14-2006, 11:30 AM A single drive. If the same thing happened to brunell and he said this i seriously think the opinions would be far different. They weren't appeasing the tens of thousands of redskin fans in cinci, they were doing what they felt was best for the team.
Rudi johnson ran it 3 times and stayed in 3 series under real pressure and hard tackles. I wonder what action the league should take against our old d-cordinator.
All i am saying is that portis wasn't put in a position that was out of the ordinary.
Good point, and while it wasn't out of the ordinary it was unnecessary. Running backs take enough of a pounding in the regular season, adding meaningless time in the preseason just adds to it. Our star rb does not need to go a whole series in the first preseason game, the risk is just not worth the reward. The only reason the starters would play the first of four preseason games is to justify the high ticket prices.
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