Jason Campbell Mistake?

Honestly there is nothing to counter this point, debate is finished, Fielder is better.

Fielders that are better that Ramsey:

1). Jay

2). Prince

3). Cecil

4). Left, Center and Right

Fielders that are better that Ramsey:

1). Jay

2). Prince

3). Cecil

4). Left, Center and Right
considering his name is fiedler, that was pretty lame

Not quite as lame as someone saying Ramsey > Fiedler

Not quite as lame as someone saying Ramsey > Fiedler
i didnt say he was better i just said that he wasnt worse

Ramsey needs to get a job.

Honestly there is nothing to counter this point, debate is finished, Fielder is better.


Have you ever seen the guy play in person? He's a joke, Miami won games on the back of Ricky Williams period.

He's so good they bought in AJ Feeley, Feeley had the best win loss record of them all, talk about a horrible QB, stats are many times meaningless in determaining a players ability, circumstances often dictate a players success's and failures. Trent Dilfer anyone?

I will say though that in his prime Cecil "Fielder" was probably a better QB than Jay "Fiedler" lol

Have you ever seen the guy play in person? He's a joke, Miami won games on the back of Ricky Williams period.

He's so good they bought in AJ Feeley, Feeley had the best win loss record of them all, talk about a horrible QB, stats are many times meaningless in determaining a players ability, circumstances often dictate a players success's and failures. Trent Dilfer anyone?

I will say though that in his prime Cecil "Fielder" was probably a better QB than Jay "Fiedler" lol

That's a very compelling argument....except how do you explain that the Dolphins were 11-5 in 2000 and 2001 (something they hadn't done since 1992, and haven't done since), with Jay Fiedler starting at QB and before Ricky Williams got there?

That's a very compelling argument....except how do you explain that the Dolphins were 11-5 in 2000 and 2001 (something they hadn't done since 1992, and haven't done since), with Jay Fiedler starting at QB and before Ricky Williams got there?

Don't worry, there's always an excuse when it comes to defending Patrick 'Montana' Ramsey. You have to throw all stats right out the window, they're completely meaningless. It's what's in the mind of a football man that matters. And no I'm not talking about Gibbs or anyone on the Jets coaching staff either. Everyone is still missing the boat on this guy. We'll all see someday...

That's a very compelling argument....except how do you explain that the Dolphins were 11-5 in 2000 and 2001 (something they hadn't done since 1992, and haven't done since), with Jay Fiedler starting at QB and before Ricky Williams got there?
In 2000, they had the 27th (out of 31) best offense and the 6th best defense

In 2001, they had the 24th (out of 31) best offense and the 5th best defense

Fiedler really carried that team...

I'm not even trying to say the Ramsey is good...im saying Fiedler isn't

Have you ever seen the guy play in person? He's a joke, Miami won games on the back of Ricky Williams period.

He's so good they bought in AJ Feeley, Feeley had the best win loss record of them all, talk about a horrible QB, stats are many times meaningless in determaining a players ability, circumstances often dictate a players success's and failures. Trent Dilfer anyone?

I will say though that in his prime Cecil "Fielder" was probably a better QB than Jay "Fiedler" lol

Have you seen Ramsey play? He is a JOKE. All of the games I have seen him play, he never ever seems to comfortable. Talking about circumstances, Ramsey had top 5 defenses supporting him when he was playing, the defense did their part to help us win, he just couldn't do the rest. He has been tried and tested, and he just isnt enough. That is why we need to move on from Ramsey. We need to think about our future, and as of now it is Campbell. Ramsey barely even cuts up to being a backup, and our team needs Campbell in, maybe even losing, but getting a chance to get some regular season action.