724Skinsfan presents Brunell's TD/Turnover Ratio

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12thMan
07-31-2006, 11:59 AM
with a "stick"?

No, I have the stick.....I just let TMC dance!!!

hooskins
07-31-2006, 11:59 AM
This is a misleading poll, because are you talking about fumbles lost, or just fumbles in general. If it is fumbles lost, a majority of the QBs come are 1:1 or 1.5:1(Brunell last year), or maybe 2:1(see Peyton Manning last year), but not way more than that. If you are talking about fumbles in general, then I would say brunell maybe at 1:2, or 1:1.5. Either way, it will most likely be 1:1 if he does ok and 2:1 if he is great. 3:1 is riduclous and that will not happen.

SmootSmack
07-31-2006, 12:04 PM
This is a misleading poll, because are you talking about fumbles lost, or just fumbles in general. If it is fumbles lost, a majority of the QBs come are 1:1 or 1.5:1(Brunell last year), or maybe 2:1(see Peyton Manning last year), but not way more than that. If you are talking about fumbles in general, then I would say brunell maybe at 1:2, or 1:1.5. Either way, it will most likely be 1:1 if he does ok and 2:1 if he is great. 3:1 is riduclous and that will not happen.

Fumbles lost. Sorry for the misleading. I don't generally consider a fumble a turnover unless the fumble was lost

724Skinsfan
07-31-2006, 12:04 PM
Correction: 724 uses a log when he's doing his "aggressive poking". And I've got the CD single of HOT, HOT HOT which includes a 12 minute version.

Since Saunders system is based on timing rather than QB vision, I think we may see more INT's from Brunell initially but, assuming health is not a factor, he should adapt as the season progresses. I went 3:1. Of course the punishment for me not voting really is just my pleasure.

ArtMonkDrillz
07-31-2006, 12:07 PM
I've got to go with 2:1 mainly because of the fumbles. I think Brunell will continue to make smart throws but when he does get hit he coughs it up.

hooskins
07-31-2006, 12:12 PM
Fumbles lost. Sorry for the misleading. I don't generally consider a fumble a turnover unless the fumble was lost

No problemo. But you guys seriously think it will be 3:1? I mean look at other QBs, like Trent Green, in the same system last couple years. He was basically 1:1 or 1.5:1, never 3:1. In fact I am positive a starting QB last year that was not 3:1 or better, but I'll check it. 1:1 is not a bad ratio.

hooskins
07-31-2006, 12:15 PM
Green was 2:1 exactly in his 2002 season, which was one of his best. I should change my vote to "Other" because I really think it will around 1.25:1 or something like that. Closer to 1:1, but a bit better.

Schneed10
07-31-2006, 12:21 PM
1) A fumble is not a turnover unless the other team recovers it. If you recover your own fumble, it is by definition, not a turnover.

2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that.

3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative.

724Skinsfan
07-31-2006, 12:32 PM
Oops! Didn't see the fumbles part! Reading is fun! Change mine to a pastrami on rye with slaw on the side or not at all, I'm not going to eat it anyway. What's that? Oh, uh a cherry Coke.

hooskins
07-31-2006, 12:37 PM
2) Expecting Brunell to go 3:1 is entirely unrealistic. No QBs ever do that.

3) I'll say he performs on pace for 25 TDs, 12 INTs, and 5 fumbles lost. That'd be about 1.5:1. I'll round up to 2:1 because I'm probably being a little conservative.

Yeah what i have been trying to say, 3:1 isn't possible.

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