The Trung Canidate Situation...

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Big C
05-23-2004, 01:38 PM
why is everyone so high on Sultan McColough. Personally I didnt think he had that great of a preseason last year, it was against backups, just curious to why everyone thinks he is so good...

jasonskin
05-23-2004, 04:16 PM
I'd be really surprised if Canidate makes the team.

For someone who has such a fast 40 time he sure doesn't play fast.




Me to it would be a surpised.

itvnetop
05-23-2004, 04:23 PM
why is everyone so high on Sultan McColough. Personally I didnt think he had that great of a preseason last year, it was against backups, just curious to why everyone thinks he is so good...

being fast doesn't always equate to great football skills (ie, james jett), but it doesn't hurt sultan runs a 10.1 100 meters. He played on a mediocre SC team back in the mid-90s, where he learned how to run between tackles (he already knew how to break it outside and take it to the house once in a while) and play through injury.

Again, that was college, so nobody really knows what he can do in the league. Like Crisp says, we'll see something when he's given the chance.

jdlea
05-23-2004, 07:42 PM
I also wonder why you all are so high on Sultan McCullough. He has showed me nothing outside of a few decent performances in the 4th quarter of some preseason games last year. I also wonder what Ladell Betts has done to make him a lock to make this team. I haven't seen anything from Betts that guarantees his spot either. I think the runners we keep should be:
Starter: Portis
Backup: Cartwright
Others: Morton
Candidate
Betts

I only think they should keep Betts because it's too early to give up on him. Candidate didn't play well last season, but he was still the top runner on the team. In addition to Candidate, Rock Cartwright really showed me something. I was surprised by his ability to run the football. He played pretty well considering the situation he was put in and I feel he could flourish as the backup to Clinton Portis.

jrocx69
05-24-2004, 01:35 AM
i think you guys that dont like sultan are close to hitting moron on the IQ chart. the guy plays fast, runs especially fast, and speed n determination is what special teams are all about... he's definately got them both. and with that speed, the odds of playing hb is very good. if anyone didnt notice the game is all about speed now. look at de's and lb's from back in the day to now. huge decrease in weight.. hell, qbs back in the day to now... whats different? SPEED

SKINSnCANES
05-24-2004, 01:40 AM
Yes speed is what counts, but its speed after the catch, speed scrambling out of the pocket, speed after breaking through the line, speed chasing down a receiver. Not speed on a stopwatch. Its more about quickness than anything. Trungs problem was he couldnt stay on his feet, he couldnt take a hit and keep going. When no one touched him he churned out a bunch of big games, but that happens less often then you having to break a tackle.

As far as Sultan, after seein him in the preseason I was hoping all season he would get his chance to start, I really liked what I saw out of him and wished he had received a chance to play more

Hogskin
05-24-2004, 05:52 AM
Hmmmm - seems pretty harsh (and downright silly) to call anyone who disagrees with your subjective assessment of talent a "moron".

Oh, and by the way, I am not one of the "morons"...

MTK
05-24-2004, 09:32 AM
Hmmmm - seems pretty harsh (and downright silly) to call anyone who disagrees with your subjective assessment of talent a "moron".

Oh, and by the way, I am not one of the "morons"...
Seriously, there's no need to insult someone for their opinion.

BrudLee
05-24-2004, 10:25 AM
To the Sultan-Backers - yes, he is VERY fast, and in his limited (mostly training camp) experience, he showed a great deal. Remember two things - he hasn't played in the regular season effectively; and he left college with a (reportedly huge) attitude problem, which then coordinator Hue Jackson thought he could address because of their shared USC background. Hue ain't there no more.

To the Sultan-Bashers - Sultan is crazy, sexy fast. Not like Canidate, either. At 6'0", 200 lbs., he has shoulders before he puts the pads on. Sure he's a little crazy, but when there's a two-foot gap between Thomas and Jansen, you've got to be nuts to sprint through it. At his contract level (CHEAP!), he deserves to be in the hunt for a slot on this team. He was a tweener last year - too good for the practice squad, not good enough for the roster. He's earned a chance to win a spot.

MTK
05-24-2004, 10:32 AM
Sultan wins out in my book over Trung simply because he has untapped potential. We've already seen Trung in action and outside of one big game in his rookie season against the Jets he's failed to impress. Also, Trung = no cap hit. I'd say the odds are stacked against him to be here in September.

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