Negotiations between Saints, Bush agent to heat up

jdlea,
I realize you do not care about the rules infractions Reggie commited in college. However his infractions may effect an entire team and University. USC may have to forfeit their two national titles and every game that Bush played in. If the Heisman comittee had any real values and balls they would strip him of the award since he was not a true amatuer.

Which leads me to the reckless way he and his representaive are negotiatieing his contract. Are you still going to be in love with Reggie if he follows through with his threat to sit out the entire year and enter next years draft if he does not get the money. How are the needy New Orleans people going to feel about him if he does that? Selfish? Yes.

Why would want a player on your team that has this kind of selfish attitude?

Well, as far as people are concerned, he'd still be a good person, just a bad teammate.

jdlea,
I realize you do not care about the rules infractions Reggie commited in college. However his infractions may effect an entire team and University. USC may have to forfeit their two national titles and every game that Bush played in. If the Heisman comittee had any real values and balls they would strip him of the award since he was not a true amatuer.

Which leads me to the reckless way he and his representaive are negotiatieing his contract. Are you still going to be in love with Reggie if he follows through with his threat to sit out the entire year and enter next years draft if he does not get the money. How are the needy New Orleans people going to feel about him if he does that? Selfish? Yes.

Why would want a player on your team that has this kind of selfish attitude?

Why do you call Reggie selfish??

Because he accepted a free million dollar house for his parents to stay in with out any regard to his team or teamates. He knew this was a rule infractions and still did it. Reggie was lucky this stuff was discovered after the season, what if it had been discovered during last season? No champonship game.
If you are on the current very talented USC team and facing possible sanctions, would you be happy? Plus I am not sure that his parents are that poor to begin with.
Then he proceeded to tell the entire nation on ESPN prior to the NFL draft that it was a big misunderstanding and that his name and family will be cleared once the truth gets out.
Well the truth is out and he commited several major rule infractions, for what? So his parents can live in a million dollar house. That defines selfishness because he willing to sacrifice his team and teamates just to live in a nice home.

jdlea,
I realize you do not care about the rules infractions Reggie commited in college. However his infractions may effect an entire team and University. USC may have to forfeit their two national titles and every game that Bush played in. If the Heisman comittee had any real values and balls they would strip him of the award since he was not a true amatuer.

Which leads me to the reckless way he and his representaive are negotiatieing his contract. Are you still going to be in love with Reggie if he follows through with his threat to sit out the entire year and enter next years draft if he does not get the money. How are the needy New Orleans people going to feel about him if he does that? Selfish? Yes.

Why would want a player on your team that has this kind of selfish attitude?

I've heard about that, but I highly doubt that threat was made because he actually intended to re-enter the draft. That seems like a threat an agent would have made. Kind of like whenever Ramsey's agents asked for him to be traded, but Pat overruled them. If he did follow through with that threat I would think less of him. I would think of that as selfish.

As for USC. If they don't think other players are accepting gifts/money that goes against NCAA rules, they're lying to themselves. I hung out with a few of the football players at Tulane and most of the didn't disillusion people about almuni being very "generous." So, I think it's a problem that an athlete is so brazen that he gets caught, but I don't think it's a big deal because I think most of them are taking money they shouldn't be.

And finally, USC might have to forfeit wins or games or national titles, but they won't be giving back the money that alumni dumped into the program. Or that they were awarded for going to and winning bowl games. The issue here is money. And college athletes deserve more than they get because schools get rich off of them and all they get is a free education. I have academic scholarships, but people don't show up to watch me take tests. I don't make money for schools. Athletes do and they don't really see anything for it. In my opinion, that's just wrong.

How are the needy New Orleans people going to feel about him if he does that? Selfish?
How do the people of Tampa Bay feel about Bo Jackson?

Well the truth is out and he commited several major rule infractions, for what? So his parents can live in a million dollar house. That defines selfishness because he willing to sacrifice his team and teamates just to live in a nice home.

i'm willing to wager my entire future earnings that reggie bush wasn't the only one committing infractions in division 1 football last season... he just got caught. it was not the smartest thing in the world, especially since we're under the microscope (being in the national hunt for two years in a row), but still it isn't unusual.

do you know how often d1 football players receive non-commissioned "gifts" from alumni or their parents receiving similar benefits? it's the tradeoff for what they bring to the program and to the university. yes, they get a free education. but many non-athletes get free educations too. while the ballers aren't there because of their brains, the regular students aren't dedicating all those hours a week on top of classes to win football games.

for the record, d1 schollies aren't allowed to have work study jobs- they get a food and rent stipend. i'm not justifying all these players getting these gifts, but at the same time I'm not going to condemn them either. Until anyone walks in their shoes (try practicing three hours a day, hitting weights when you're not on the field, going to class, finishing homework, and having to perform in front of 85,000 people on Saturdays), people should be careful of glass houses.

If you say Reggie Bush is selfish, you'd better look at your own favorite college team and realize that many of the players are probably getting the same kinds of things. Chances are your newest stud recruit didn't sign that LOI without some sort of signing bonus.

Ah, indeed. However, I'm not just going to hate on Bush, I'm going to hate on Reggie and Leinhart and Lendale White because they're all products of being around each other. Put Reggie on the Broncos or Patriots and he would go apeshit. Mario Williams can make an impact wherever he goes.

we'll see if this is true... i just hope if all three succeed everyone here will give them due respect... not "leinart is surrounded by edge and two elite receivers" and "lendale has vince young."

Of course. You can't pop the noise if you're not prepared to eat the crow. I had to have my stomach pumped specifically of the crow I ate over Mark Brunell last year.

I still don't see why he has some huge ego because he asked to wear #5? He's still giving the money to Katrina Relief efforts and that's all that really matters.

As for breaking NCAA rules. I don't care. I really don't. It doesn't matter to me one bit. NCAA players get used as it is. It doesn't matter to me if they take advantage of their fame. Schools make millions off of kids who are provided a free education. 40k a year? Those kids are putting more money than that into the school's pockets, so I could really care less about any player taking money. I didn't care about Clarrett breaking rules. I don't care that Vick broke rules. It doesn't matter to me if a college player is taking money because most of them do and don't get caught.

I remember listening to Jeff Bostic talk about when he broke into the league and his first contract. He said, "that was a paycut coming from Clemson." I couldn't care less that a guy was taking advantage of his fame and getting shit for free. Will I feel bad for him if he gets his Hiesman taken away? No. Cause he knew he was breaking the rules and he got caught. But it doesn't matter to me.

As for McAllister...you've seen running backs come back from torn ACL's before. I don't care what he says. I'll be shocked if he goes for 1100 yards.

And as for Michael Bennet. He's sick with his 1 1000 yard season. And I know you're response will be, but Reggie hasn't played in the NFL. So what? That's what ROOKIE means.

I agree with you that there's really nothing wrong with Reggie Bush asking for what he thinks he deserves. Whether I agree with it is a different matter. BUt he's entitled to do what he feels. He has to be prepared to face a backlash in the public eye over that, it's just the nature of the beast.

As far as Deuce coming back from a torn ACL, let me submit the name Terry Allen who came back from two gruesome ACL injuries to put up some pretty nice numbers for the Redskins.