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That Guy
07-24-2006, 01:00 PM
I meant to take donte stallworth over eddie kennison, but i just lost focus for a second and went on auto-pilot.

antonio bryant was the best player to go undrafted (and the only undrafted guy of note, i believe). I'll try to get him on waivers and ditch the Wash DEF. after preseason i can look at him compared to chad jackson (rookie WRs are generally a bad bet, even if they're guaranteed starting jobs). Being 10th means i get first dibs on the first waiver wire move.

That Guy
07-24-2006, 01:19 PM
QB = Trent Green is usually one of the best QBs, usually underrated too. It'll be interesting to see how losing Saunders effects KC, but he should still be good. Plummer is a good BACKUP. I wouldn't trust him to start but you picked a great backup.
QB GRADE = A

RB = I'm really high on S. Jackson, especially with Faulk not being around to steal 3rd-down plays from him. Lamont Jordan is not bad and if he's the best that was available...ok. Oakland as a team isn't dependable for fantasy purposes. They'll need Jordan to suceed though, since their QB situation is horrible. Tatum Bell could end up being better than Jordan, so he's a solid pick, especially in the 6th round. Addai is a big unknown. Williams is a good risk to take for a rookie RB. He should be better than Reggie Bush.
RB GRADE = B


thanks for the comments, just a few notes:
QB:
trent green gets 4k yards, but only 20 or so TDs (plummer has the exact same problem and can't play in bad weather). I'm hoping (if lelie shuts up) that plummer will have 2 #1s and a good #2 to throw to. otherwise, he'll still be an average FF QB like trent green (but a bit worse). I'm not going to rack up a ton of positive points on QB matchups, but thats the trade off for going heavy on RBs and WRs (which have much steeper drop offs).

RB:
jordan could easily get 1200 yards and 11 tds (what he was on pace for, but he missed 2 games), so he's really not that bad (though he obviously isn't as nice as LJ etc). I probably should have taken C williams (TB) or ronnie brown (MIA), but I'm not sure they'll do as well this year (neither one has good TD prouction and williams had more bad games than good ones). Brown suffered from lack of carries though, so he's still a (promising) unknown. I liked deangelo because d foster can't stay on the field and I think he's a #2 quality back anyways. I liked addai cause manning creates a running game, so whoever you stick in there has a good chance of getting 1,000.

That Guy
07-24-2006, 01:32 PM
basically the top 5 picks are scripted:
LJohnson
LTomlinson
SAlexander
CPortis
TBarber

then Edge and Rudi Johnson also go as safe RB picks with peyton and steve smith. the 10th 1st rounder is always an RB, usually lamont jordan or steven jackson, but sometimes its ronnie brown or C williams.

I'd personally take tiki over portis (1.8k vs 1.5k) in non keeper leagues, but portis has more upside this season if everything clicks.

MightyJoeGibbs
07-24-2006, 02:08 PM
#2. Jordan my boy outta suitland/ UMD this has to be his breakout year.
#15. Wash Def. smart choice

GTripp0012
07-24-2006, 08:18 PM
I picked 10th in a 10 man league, so no LJ for me:
1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 6 bench

Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

my WR depth is a little flaky and neither QB throws a ton a TDs (hoping javon walker helps plummer a bit and that lelie stops crying too). I think I nailed RB the best i could without having a top 9 pick.Very solid grabs in the first two rounds, and I like how you were able to consistently get steals in the late rounds. Cooley in the 12th is highway robbery. Lots O' mediocre receivers though. I know hindsight is 20-20, but maybe you should have grabbed a stud WR with the 2nd pick considering your ability to find quality RBs late. As it is I'm envious of the RB situation you have. At QB, Green is a great seasonal pick as he is a lock for close to 4000 yds.

FRPLG
07-24-2006, 11:37 PM
I picked 10th in a 10 man league, so no LJ for me:
1 QB, 2 RBs, 3 WRs, 1 TE, 1 K, 1 DEF, 6 bench

Round - Player (Position)
1. Steven Jackson (RB)
2. Lamont Jordan (RB)
3. Reggie Wayne (WR)
4. Javon Walker (WR)
5. Donald Driver (WR)
6. Tatum Bell (RB)
7. Deangelo Williams (RB)
8. Joseph Addai (RB)
9. Eddie Kennison (WR)
10. Trent Green (QB)
11. Jake Plummer (QB)
12. Chris Cooley (TE)
13. Chad Jackson (WR)
14. Neil Rackers (K)
15. Washington (DEF)

my WR depth is a little flaky and neither QB throws a ton a TDs (hoping javon walker helps plummer a bit and that lelie stops crying too). I think I nailed RB the best i could without having a top 9 pick.
I think this is a rather good draft.
You're living on potential at RB but it is a good job of getting some RBs that can actually help you win.

I disagree on WR. You look solid to me. Wayne is superior. Walker is potentially superior. Driver is a main option and Kennison is a real steal at 9. Short on depth but from 10 you did real good. You can probably trade one of your potentialized backs for solid WR depth in the first few weeks after injuries mount elsewhere in your league.

You're living large at TE, K and D.

I applaud this one.

As an aside. I have done analysis of every league I have ever been in(in football) and have realized that picking the sandwhich is almost a death kill. On average in my leagues(19 of them) the sandwhich pick finishes over 2 standard deviations below the mean and has never finshed better than fourth(14 team league). The only time it wasn't totally a death kill was in a 14 team league where it was split into divisions. The guy who ended up fourth was in the weaker division that had a losing record against the other division. He finished 1st in that division becuase he had no injuries and his divison fell apart.

Translation: sandwhich pick sucks.

That Guy
07-25-2006, 04:33 AM
As an aside. I have done analysis of every league I have ever been in(in football) and have realized that picking the sandwhich is almost a death kill...

Translation: sandwhich pick sucks.

when i hear sandwich I think the #5 pick, but you mean the #10 right? does the #1 tend to win? this year every #1 seems to get LJ, holt/r moss (user choice) and D Davis to start, and usually ends up with shockey in the 5th as well... that's for 10 man leagues though.

I do get first waiver wire and antonio byrant is undrafted. I can drop Wash D and pick him up until i have to make a choice in week 1. i think he's a lock for 800-1k yards even with the crap 49ers. I'm worried about TD production though.

FRPLG
07-25-2006, 08:23 AM
Yeah I mean the last pick in the first round.

In fact if you take a total point production from a previous year the 10(or12 or 14 or whichever depending on league size) always has the lowest total.

Just from looking through and doing some subjective analysis I think it has to do with the propensity for the 10 pick to reach. Usually the top RBs are gone by 7 or 8 and then a top WR goes and the top QB. At 10 you have at best a top WR or a second tier RB and inevitably everyone always grabs the RB and immediately puts themselves in a hole. This year and to some degree last year are a little different in that there are a few more good RBs to be had around 10 so maybe the trend is swaying.

FRPLG
07-25-2006, 08:24 AM
when i hear sandwich I think the #5 pick, but you mean the #10 right? does the #1 tend to win? this year every #1 seems to get LJ, holt/r moss (user choice) and D Davis to start, and usually ends up with shockey in the 5th as well... that's for 10 man leagues though.

I do get first waiver wire and antonio byrant is undrafted. I can drop Wash D and pick him up until i have to make a choice in week 1. i think he's a lock for 800-1k yards even with the crap 49ers. I'm worried about TD production though.
Will you lose Wass's D if you drop them? Even without knowing your D scoring I would think the dropoff from Wash to whoever else is there might be precipitous. Maybe not though.

724Skinsfan
07-25-2006, 09:37 AM
Will you lose Wass's D if you drop them? Even without knowing your D scoring I would think the dropoff from Wash to whoever else is there might be precipitous. Maybe not though.

Due to lack of turnover's, Washington's D has never yielded very good fantasy production. They are usually middle of the pack (only as far as fantasy goes). If they can produce more turnover's then they could be a top fantasy defense but until then...

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