Red-Skins Nation?

More than any team's fans I have a problem with the Patriot's fans. Talk about jumping onto the bandwagon. The Patriots had a following similar to the Arizona Cardinals prior to the Super Bowl. Sure, you could say that about any team who has a Super Bowl victory, but I sure don't see a lot of Tampa Bay hats around here.

Agreed, before the Brady years I don't think I ever came across a single person that claimed to be a Patriots fan. Nobody actually cheered for the Patriots.....they were a joke.

I think my list would be similar in other respects though. I'd say some of my top ones would be Red Sox, Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals, Raiders, Redskins, Cowboys, Steelers and probably the Mets.

[QUOTE=12thMan]I hate to start a thread talking about another sports team. But when it comes to fan bases, I think it's possible that Red Sox Nation is arguably the most fervent group of fans in existence. After all they waited, what, 86 years before they had some hardware to show for anything.
If that's not longsuffering then I don't know what is!QUOTE]

The Sox have great fans no doubt, but I hate all that 86 year nonsense like they were the only suffering fans in the world! Unless you are a 90+ year old Redsox fan then you are no different then the rest of the suffering fans. And how many Redsox fans have been alive to suffer through even half those 86 years...not that many...certanily not a "nation" worth of them. Some teams have never won. I am a 35 year old skins fan so I have no complaints there, but my second favorite sports team is the Philly Flyers who have not won since 1975 when I was 4 years old. So I have never seen them win the Stanley Cup in my life...so why would a 35 year old Red Sox fan be any more miserable then a 35 year old Flyers fan or any other fan who has never seen their team win? That just agravates me how Redsox And Cubs fans think they have the market cornered on misery. It's nonsense...

Agreed, before the Brady years I don't think I ever came across a single person that claimed to be a Patriots fan. Nobody actually cheered for the Patriots.....they were a joke.

I think my list would be similar in other respects though. I'd say some of my top ones would be Red Sox, Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals, Raiders, Redskins, Cowboys, Steelers and probably the Mets.

Texas stadium is half full when the Cowboys are not having a great season. They have a big nationwide fanbase but their local support is pretty weak I think.

The Sox have great fans no doubt, but I hate all that 86 year nonsense like they were the only suffering fans in the world! Unless you are a 90+ year old Redsox fan then you are no different then the rest of the suffering fans. And how many Redsox fans have been alive to suffer through even half those 86 years...not that many...certanily not a "nation" worth of them. Some teams have never won. I am a 35 year old skins fan so I have no complaints there, but my second favorite sports team is the Philly Flyers who have not won since 1975 when I was 4 years old. So I have never seen them win the Stanley Cup in my life...so why would a 35 year old Red Sox fan be any more miserable then a 35 year old Flyers fan or any other fan who has never seen their team win? That just agravates me how Redsox And Cubs fans think they have the market cornered on misery. It's nonsense...

Exactly what I'm saying. I just don't get all the "oh we've suffered for 86 years" crap. Plus I hate how they feel they're owed something. I had two roommates in college who were die hard Sox and it's like they never "lost" they were always "robbed"

Sorry to all Sox fans who might be here, it's nothing personal. I just hate your team

The Sox have great fans no doubt, but I hate all that 86 year nonsense like they were the only suffering fans in the world! Unless you are a 90+ year old Redsox fan then you are no different then the rest of the suffering fans. And how many Redsox fans have been alive to suffer through even half those 86 years...not that many...certanily not a "nation" worth of them. Some teams have never won. I am a 35 year old skins fan so I have no complaints there, but my second favorite sports team is the Philly Flyers who have not won since 1975 when I was 4 years old. So I have never seen them win the Stanley Cup in my life...so why would a 35 year old Red Sox fan be any more miserable then a 35 year old Flyers fan or any other fan who has never seen their team win? That just agravates me how Redsox And Cubs fans think they have the market cornered on misery. It's nonsense...

Excellent point. And as a Flyers fan, it's not like you haven't lived through an unbelievable number of teams that all looked poised to do it. They may be the most consistently good/great franchise to have not won a Championship (in any major sport) in over 30 years.

Texas stadium is half full when the Cowboys are not having a great season. They have a big nationwide fanbase but their local support is pretty weak I think.

Good point. I guess it's just the inordinantly large number of fans that I always had to deal with growing up in Eastern PA. I mean, why the heck are you a cowboys fan if you're from eastern PA? It never made sense to me, but it always gave me the impression 50% of the country was a Cowboys fan (I'm exaggerating, but you get the point). I always hated that "America's Team" BS too. People would talk about "America's Team" and I'd always fire back by telling them they must be talking about the Redskins......after all, our Nation's capital only has one football team (or at least it did before FedEx).

Agreed, before the Brady years I don't think I ever came across a single person that claimed to be a Patriots fan. Nobody actually cheered for the Patriots.....they were a joke.

I think my list would be similar in other respects though. I'd say some of my top ones would be Red Sox, Yankees, St. Louis Cardinals, Raiders, Redskins, Cowboys, Steelers and probably the Mets.

I dunno. I think maybe in sheer numbers that Red Sox and Yankees fans might outnumber football teams fans, however many of those fans are disinterested. If you live in that area of the world, it's like it is a prerequisite to make a commitment to either the Red Sox or the Yankees. When it comes to sheer loyalty and straight up fanaticism, I'd have to say that the Redskins and Cowboys fans are some of the best and most loyal.

I dunno. I think maybe in sheer numbers that Red Sox and Yankees fans might outnumber football teams fans, however many of those fans are disinterested. If you live in that area of the world, it's like it is a prerequisite to make a commitment to either the Red Sox or the Yankees. When it comes to sheer loyalty and straight up fanaticism, I'd have to say that the Redskins and Cowboys fans are some of the best and most loyal.

Well, I think you find sheer fanaticism in football fans in general moreso than baseball. Football and baseball games are just a completely different environment. I've never lost my voice at a baseball game (even though I am a die hard Mets fan), but I've never had a voice left after a football game. So I'd agree with you, but it just might not be fair to compare baseball fans to football fans. Maybe the discussion should be the top baseball fans, the top football fans, the top college football fans, top hockey fans, etc. It kinda is impossible to mix them and not have all the football teams' fans come out on top. IMO

Well, I'm talking about people like us who spend day in and day out discussing the team. Sure baseball has those, but if I was naming TOP FANS of any sport, I'd say Skins and Cowboys fans.

I wonder what Red Sox and Yankees fans who don't care about football would say?