Are the NY Giants making good decisions?

Pages : 1 2 [3]

BrudLee
05-19-2004, 12:09 PM
Collins was expensive (and not even that great of a QB, in my book.) Collins also wanted to start, whereas the Giants wanted to put their first pick in to let him run that team from day 1. May as well start a new QB with a new coach.

Remember too that Collins had little value to Coughlin as someone who could impart his system onto Manning. Kerry Collins had as much to learn about Coughlin's offense as Eli Manning does - which makes his $7 million salary easy to drop. If Collins had some experience with Coughlin's system, I'm sure something could have been worked out.

There are only a few QB's in the league that have experience under Coughlin. Notably, we have the one with the most experience (Brunnell). Jaime Martin (who may still be with the Jets), Rob Johnson (Raiders?), Jay Fielder (Dolphins), Jonathon Quinn (Chiefs?), and David Garrard (still Jax) all played under Coughlin, and might have fit the bill. Interestingly, all except Garrard (I think) would have been available in free agency, and none were considered (or they refused any inquiries). What that says about Coughlin, or the Giants, or the players - who are noticably lacking in star power - I won't speculate.

redwagonskins
05-19-2004, 01:43 PM
The G-men are in serious trouble. Coughlin sees this and that alone is why he has already ordained Manning the franchise QB. When he was sucking in J-ville and left Leftwich on the bench, he had nobody to blame but himself. Starting a rookie deflects all of the criticism he will be facing and puts it on the QB's shoulders. "You can't hold me accountable, I have to play a rookie QB!"
And drafting the father of his daughters baby (not son-in-law...) smacks of poor headwork and nepotism. How the heck can he ever cut the guy?
Tiki Barber fumbles more than he scores, the o-line is horrible.....
Can't wait to play 'em!

sportscurmudgeon
05-19-2004, 01:48 PM
The Giants are going to stink on wheat toast this year!

How about this for a clver move, however?

They signed as a free agent Jared Lorenzen, the big QB out of Kentucky. That is probably a smokescreen because J-Load - as he has come to be known - showed up at the minicamp weighing 292 lbs. He played last year at 275. Actually, the secret deal the Giants have with J-Load is that he will be starting at OT this year... ;)

PSUskinsfan11
05-19-2004, 02:03 PM
I think the Giants have a solid Offense minus the line, but their D seems to be getting worse everytime I see their roster. Emmons is the only ok LB they have on their roster, and the D-line is nothing without 92 unless Hand proves he is not a has been which could help them. Also their DB's are good when healthy whenever that is. So overall they have an ok offense and a suspect D but they did get Eli, who can only do so much even if he turns out to be a stud (similiar to Peyton with no D in Indy his first few seasons). The worst thing of all for the Giants is not only are their best players starting to get on the old side they have no first round pick next year which will more than likely be top 10. Could be a long few years for the Giants.

BrudLee
05-19-2004, 02:08 PM
The G-men are in serious trouble. Coughlin sees this and that alone is why he has already ordained Manning the franchise QB. When he was sucking in J-ville and left Leftwich on the bench, he had nobody to blame but himself. Starting a rookie deflects all of the criticism he will be facing and puts it on the QB's shoulders. "You can't hold me accountable, I have to play a rookie QB!"
And drafting the father of his daughters baby (not son-in-law...) smacks of poor headwork and nepotism. How the heck can he ever cut the guy?
Tiki Barber fumbles more than he scores, the o-line is horrible.....
Can't wait to play 'em!
Though Leftwich wasn't on the Jags when Coughlin was there, you're absolutely right about Coughlin's desire for Manning. It's also the reason Manning wanted to be in NY rather than SD - Schottenheimer will have had three years to improve the Chargers, and it's unlikely they'll be measurably better than last year. That means a new coach in SD, so Manning would get a new system, wasting his rookie season.

In defense of the Giants, Chris Snee (my grand-baby's daddy) is a solid prospect, and among the best interior linemen in the draft this year. He wasn't a reach, but it will be awkward at the dinner table after he (inevitably) gets chewed out.

Riggo44
05-19-2004, 04:41 PM
I sure hope not!!! :httr:

Carnage
05-19-2004, 06:00 PM
Poor Eli will always be comparted to Payton, but Payton had something Eli does not. Peyton's first year was promising but the record sucked. As a result, they were in the position to draft Edgerrin James, and the rest is history. Since next years pick was traded for Eli, he will not have another young weapon to make his life easier.

redwagonskins
05-20-2004, 02:40 AM
BrudLee, thanks for the correction but I see you got my point. I really think Eli is in a bad situation and there is no relief. The fans of NYG are already pissed that their team quit last year and is complaining about working in the off-season (right or wrong). Who are they going to stary, the Bachelor? No way, and if he starts and loses then the fans will be screaming for heads. Eli is going to take the brunt of it and he ain't getting help in next years draft. Clevelands fans made Couch cry, imagine what NY fans are going to do to him. He's incredibly lucky he's not in Philly!

EZ Archive Ads Plugin for vBulletin Copyright 2006 Computer Help Forum