firstdown
07-06-2006, 05:39 PM
I would also disagree with him saying big Ben is overrated. He is what going into his third year as a player and has won over 95% of his games. He saved them in the playoffs after the bus fumbled the ball and for his age has managed the field very well. Oh, and he has won a SB as the youngest QB ever and that should be enough in itself.
FRPLG
07-06-2006, 05:43 PM
Good job legitimizing this thread firstdown. Now it can't be called a homerfest.
number21isabadman
07-06-2006, 10:22 PM
I also dont think that taylor should be in the under-rated column, his is going into his third year as a number 5 draft pick, recievers fear him and quaterbacks dodge him, but i'd say if he doesnt make the pro-bowl this year somethings up.
saden1
07-06-2006, 10:28 PM
Archuleta's coverage skills are pretty weak. Williams will mask his weaknesses as much as possible and have him play closer to the line. I'll guarantee one thing, you won't see him covering a #2 receiver let alone #1 WR solo.
ArtMonkDrillz
07-06-2006, 10:40 PM
Hey guys, remember that time roy williams got burned twice by Santana and lost he game for the cowboys on nationat TV? That was pretty awesome.
Redskins8588
07-06-2006, 11:37 PM
I would also disagree with him saying big Ben is overrated. He is what going into his third year as a player and has won over 95% of his games. He saved them in the playoffs after the bus fumbled the ball and for his age has managed the field very well. Oh, and he has won a SB as the youngest QB ever and that should be enough in itself.
I do think that Ben is overrated. Look at the situation that he landed in when Pittsburgh drafted him. He went to a team that has a solid ground attack, a good o-line, good receivers and one of the best defenses in the league, not to mention very good special teams play. Hell, I would bet that Eli or Phillip Rivers could have put up simialar numbers to Bens had Pittsburgh drafted one of them. IMO, Ben landed in the best situation imaginable for any young QB....
I do think that Ben is overrated. Look at the situation that he landed in when Pittsburgh drafted him. He went to a team that has a solid ground attack, a good o-line, good receivers and one of the best defenses in the league, not to mention very good special teams play. Hell, I would bet that Eli or Phillip Rivers could have put up simialar numbers to Bens had Pittsburgh drafted one of them. IMO, Ben landed in the best situation imaginable for any young QB....
Sure he landed in an ideal situation. But he's contributed his part as well.
QBs get tons of hype, especially when they are winners. Ben is a winner, nobody can deny that. His hype is definitely overplayed, but at the same time he is a quality player who is still has plenty of room to grow.
SmootSmack
07-07-2006, 12:11 AM
I understand what 8588 is saying though. Put Roethlisberger in Texas or Detroit and would he have done the same? Put David Carr in Pittsburgh, what happens?
Put Ben in Texas and they would still stink. Carr in Pitt? I highly doubt he would have enjoyed the same success.
In Pittsburgh I think they captured the perfect mix of a young, talented QB and a team well built to mask his weaknesses and exploit his strengths.
SmootSmack
07-07-2006, 12:21 AM
Put Ben in Texas and they would still stink. Carr in Pitt? I highly doubt he would have enjoyed the same success.
In Pittsburgh I think they captured the perfect mix of a young, talented QB and a team well built to mask his weaknesses and exploit his strengths.
I guess the best defense for BR is how badly Tommy Maddox stunk up the joint and all the Steelers losses when Roeth wasn't in there. It's sort of how it took Sean Taylor missing the Tampa game last season for a lot of people to appreciate his value.