Southpaw
06-22-2006, 10:21 AM
What proof do you have to back that up?
Ummmm... which part?
Ummmm... which part?
Ramsey updateSouthpaw 06-22-2006, 10:21 AM What proof do you have to back that up? Ummmm... which part? mheisig 06-22-2006, 10:32 AM Ummmm... which part? The part from your post that I put in gigantic bold text. Let's try again: Ramsey is better than the two quarterbacks that were selected before him in the draft Not trying to be an ass, I'm just honestly curious. 12thMan 06-22-2006, 10:40 AM This is the most intelligent comment on this topic. Ramsey is better than the two quarterbacks that were selected before him in the draft, and they've both had three full seasons to mature. Harrington fizzled out, but until last season, he had the full support of the coaching staff. Carr still has the support of his team, and he has yet to prove anything except that he was picked WAY too early in the draft. Meanwhile, Ramsey was circle jerked in an out of the lineup by Spurrier, and then blackballed by Gibbs. His maturation suffered, and eventually the fans turned on him. My only hope is that Campbell doesn't throw a pick in his first start, otherwise he'll be a bust in the eyes of typical Redskins fans. I don't think it's fair to say Ramsey was blackballed by Gibbs...how so? Gibbs simply chose and went witht he QB he thought gave the team the best chance at winning. Period. Fair or unfair, that's life in the NFL. In my opinion, exceptional quaterbacks rise above the circumstances and situations handed to them and still perform. One thing we know for sure, Ramsey had a shot to prove himself. Whether his maturity was stunted by outside circumstances is debatable. But what isn't is that he had his chance, and for sure he's getting another shot in NY. MTK 06-22-2006, 10:47 AM I don't think it's fair to say Ramsey was blackballed by Gibbs...how so? Gibbs simply chose and went witht he QB he thought gave the team the best chance at winning. Period. Fair or unfair, that's life in the NFL. In my opinion, exceptional quaterbacks rise above the circumstances and situations handed to them and still perform. One thing we know for sure, Ramsey had a shot to prove himself. Whether his maturity was stunted by outside circumstances is debatable. But what isn't is that he had his chance, and for sure he's getting another shot in NY. Some people just don't understand take the fact that Ramsey wasn't Gibbs guy from the start. He didn't owe him anything. Saying that Gibbs 'blackballed' him is just ridiculous and flys in the face of everything that Gibbs is all about. Southpaw 06-22-2006, 10:48 AM Not trying to be an ass, I'm just honestly curious. Career Numbers: Joey Harrington - Average of 186 yards per start. Two more picks than TD's for his career. 68.1 career QB Rating. David Carr - Average of 180 yards per start. Five more picks than TD's for his career. 73.7 career QB Rating. Patrick Ramsey - Average of 235 yards per start. Five more TD's than picks for his career. 75.0 career QB Rating. And yet, Carr and Harrington have each "earned" 30+ more starts than Ramsey... cpayne5 06-22-2006, 10:51 AM Yet he's getting beat out by a rookie at the moment and may not even make it through training camp... 12thMan 06-22-2006, 10:53 AM Some people just don't understand take the fact that Ramsey wasn't Gibbs guy from the start. He didn't owe him anything. Saying that Gibbs 'blackballed' him is just ridiculous and flys in the face of everything that Gibbs is all about. I don't get why, or seemingly, people are so emotionally attached to Ramsey. 12thMan 06-22-2006, 10:55 AM Career Numbers: Joey Harrington - Average of 186 yards per start. Two more picks than TD's for his career. 68.1 career QB Rating. David Carr - Average of 180 yards per start. Five more picks than TD's for his career. 73.7 career QB Rating. Patrick Ramsey - Average of 235 yards per start. Five more TD's than picks for his career. 75.0 career QB Rating. And yet, Carr and Harrington have each "earned" 30+ more starts than Ramsey... Don't you think the numbers are, in fact, skewed by the difference in number of starts? MTK 06-22-2006, 10:57 AM I don't get why, or seemingly, people are so emotionally attached to Ramsey. I can understand it to a point, he was supposed to be our QB for the next decade. When he came in his rookie year and lit up the Titans, we thought we had our Brett Favre. But there comes a point where you have to take the emotion out of it and face reality. dblanch66 06-22-2006, 10:57 AM I don't think Heath Shuler got a fair deal. I'm still pissed about that... |
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