Art Monk vs Michael Irvin

So you are putting Young ahead of Elway, Marino, Favre, Moon, Montana, Tarkenton, Johnny Unitas, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, and hell even Peyton Manning is ahead of Young in yards, TD's, and completions. I just dont see why everyone is sold on Young, yeah he was good but not top 5, IMO...


You got that right, he was the benefactor of the west coast dink and dunk offense, he did nothing in the pro's until he arrived in san fran, and look how long it took him to accomplish that offense, but as usual people fall in love with a media darling and Young was definitly that, he was one of the greatest running QB's ever though I will give him that much. He couldn't come close to Montana in the same offense. 4-1 SB victories Montana

Sports writers are stupid, and they only make statements which are popular. That way, when they are proven wrong, they don't catch too much gruff because what they said was what everyone else was saying. Peter King wrote the book on this strategy.

How do you email Peter King? I want to give him a piece of my mind.

So you are putting Young ahead of Elway, Marino, Favre, Moon, Montana, Tarkenton, Johnny Unitas, Jim Kelly, Dan Fouts, and hell even Peyton Manning is ahead of Young in yards, TD's, and completions. I just dont see why everyone is sold on Young, yeah he was good but not top 5, IMO...He completed more than 64% of his passes. Even in the west coast offense, that's unbelieveable. No one else is even close to that. Not even Montana who played in the same system. For my money, only Elway, Marino, and Montana have achieved more greatness than Young.

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Stats wise, I know Monk didn't do that much in the four Super Bowls he was in (although I think he was injured for one, right?), but how did he perform throughout his playoff career? The Skins routed everyone in the '91 playoffs, what were Monk's numbers in those games?

Also, how has Skip Bayless not written an article about Monk/HOF yet? He obviously would refer to it as "The Hall of Shame" and use other such stupid puns to make his point, but at least I bet he'd be on Monk's side.

elway, favre and montana would be the only three on your list i would consider ahead of young. marino and moon put up monstorous numbers playing in a throw first offense with exactly 0 super bowl wins between them. in my eyes greatness almost always = championships

elway, favre and montana would be the only three on your list i would consider ahead of young. marino and moon put up monstorous numbers playing in a throw first offense with exactly 0 super bowl wins between them. in my eyes greatness almost always = championships

then where's tom brady or terry bradshaw?

im not sure about bradshaw? thatguy, do you have any stats on him? i was younger when the whole steel curtain thing went down and couldnt tell how good he was because that team was just so superior to everyone else. brady is on the fast track to the hall but longevity is also a key factor

Why? I am not saying that Aikman should not have ben a first ballot HOF just because he was a cowboy, I am saying it because look at the talent that he had with him and then look at his stats. He is lucky to break the top 15 in each major QB stat catagory.

Out of Passing Completion, Passint TD's, and Passing Yards, Aikman only breaks the top 20 in Passing Completion where he is ranked #12 with 2,898. In the other catagories he is non-existant in the top 20. Now that is HOF worthy?

His career was cut way short due to concussions (yeah #56). His numbers are pretty damn good for the years he played, plus winning 3 bowls. the guy deserves to be in the hall no matter what his numbers say against current members. Had he played another 5 years he would probably be in the top 5 in just about all catagories.

Not saying I agree with it, but here's what he will say: Monk never actually had a significant role in any of the Superbowls he played in, (he was injured in XXII against the Broncos) and never once caught a touchdown in any of the three Big Games he was a part of.

Gotta disagree here.

In XXVI against Buffalo he had 7 catches for 113 yards and simply dominated the Bills on one of the first half drives that ended in his TD being taken away by replay. It always amazes me how people like King don't even acknowledge this performance.