B. Lloyd Overrated?

I dont think Jimmy Farris or Taylor Jacobs acts as if they're a #1.

Anyhow, I'm not sold on Saunders getting production out of WRs. I think he gets great production from his O Line, RB, and TE. I still question what he can do with the QB and WR positions.

Granted he hasn't exactly had the best receivers or QBs to work with, but Im curious.

Yeah, and Santana Moss was a no. 3 receiver who thought he could be no. 1, too. How did that work out? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but all this stuff is settled on the field.

She says Antonio Bryant is better than Lloyd, but not as good as Randle-El - who is also on the Redskin roster. I think Lloyd and Randle-El are both great additions. We mostly need them to just get open and catch the ball consistently. Anything else is a bonus.

There are deeper issues with the 49ers. Like, how come no real Bill Walsh disciple is coaching in the birthplace of the west coast offense? Why did they trade an ok QB with NFL experience (Tim Rattay) to start a rookie? Where's the running game and defense on this team? In head2head games with Arizona, coached by Walsh disciple Dennis Green (who probably should be coaching the Niners), who wins the series?

I dont think Jimmy Farris or Taylor Jacobs acts as if they're a #1.

That could be part of Jacobs' problem. Speaking purely from a self-confidence point of view, it's widely known that in order to compete in this league, every player has to look at himself like he's #1.

If people in San Fransisco think Lloyd is a #3 at best, and as That Guy pointed out, gives us just one spectacular play per game, that's still better than the two aforementioned bozos who lined up for us after Patten and Thrash were lost to injuries.

Yeah, and Santana Moss was a no. 3 receiver who thought he could be no. 1, too. How did that work out? Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but all this stuff is settled on the field.

moss did have a better track record and an 1100 yard season beforehand though... and he was definately a #2, not a #3 for a lot of his time in NY. though gardner also had a 1000 season and proceeded to do jack after he left, so i guess it works both ways.


gibbs and williams have shown lots of big hits on talent (washington, griffin, springs, taylor, cooley, moss, portis) and no real misses (barrow, noble, fiore etc were all paid like major injury risks and jason campbell hasn't proved himself one way or the other yet).

Anyways, like i was saying, gibbs and williams are good talent evaluators right now, so i'll trust them.

Do you think Alex Smith is happy that he got VD in San Fransico?

San Fran will be looking in the draft next year for there number reciever b/c V Davis is going to be their workhorse, Bryant will catch 35 passes thats all.

gibbs and williams have shown lots of big hits on talent (washington, griffin, springs, taylor, cooley, moss, portis) and no real misses (barrow, noble, fiore etc were all paid like major injury risks and jason campbell hasn't proved himself one way or the other yet).
wasn't noble a spurrier pick

wasn't noble a spurrier pick

yeah, but gibbs chose not to cut him when it looked like his career was already over. most people had just assumed he was gone.

Anyways, like i was saying, gibbs and williams are good talent evaluators right now, so i'll trust them.

Gud enuff 4 me 2!

didn't we hear the same crap about Santana???

IMO, uis all about getting the opportunity to make plays, and in Al Saunders offense, I'm sure Lloyd will get his opportunities.

People out in San Fran must be blind to the fact that in the 2005 season alone Lloyd had to catch balls from 4 different QB's (Alex Smith, Tim Rattay, Ken Dorsey and Cody Pickett) http://www.nfl.com/teams/stats/SF. And 3 different QB's the year prior...