Will Our crappy O-Line kill cooleys production?

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jermus22
05-19-2006, 06:09 PM
I'll go one step further and say that suggesting that our line is crappy is downright crazy and makes no sense. First off, if we need a tight end to do some blocking for us, then Fauria will come in the game. Cooley will be expected to block about as often as Tony Gonzalez was expected to block.

Samuels is slightly overrated, but he's still a very good left tackle. He blocks all above average DEs in the game, the only guys he has trouble with are the superstars like Simeon Rice. Dockery is not a pass protection liability, he's so big that not too many DTs can get by him. The knock on Dockery in the past was always his discipline - too many penalties. But he curtailed that stuff last year, he was much better. He could still stand to improve his technique to harness all his power in run blocking, but overall he's solid. Rabach is unspectacular but solid, he's quick enough to get to the LB level of the defense, and he makes all the right calls on the line. Randy Thomas is a friggin beast, one of the best RGs in the game, big, athletic, and disciplined. Jansen is rock-solid, he struggles with guys like Strahan, but he can be relied on consistently.

Someone's going to have to convince me in what way our line is a weakness. That doesn't make any sense to me.

I completely agree with your assessment of our starters, but if one of them goes down, we are in a load of trouble. We picked up two decent backups at guard (Pucillo from Cleveland and somebody from Houston). But we lack a true backup at tackle and center. Lefotu (our sixth round pick) can play any position on the line but isn't a high quality backup, and our best option at tackle is Jim Molinaro (who isn't highly rated as far as I know). I hope we add a little depth through free agency.

amorentz
05-19-2006, 06:16 PM
I'll go one step further and say that suggesting that our line is crappy is downright crazy and makes no sense. First off, if we need a tight end to do some blocking for us, then Fauria will come in the game. Cooley will be expected to block about as often as Tony Gonzalez was expected to block.

Thanks for saving e-ink by making my point for me! Amen!

jermus22
05-19-2006, 06:17 PM
Everyone forgets that Saunders employed a fullback fairly often. Anybody remember Tony Richardson? How many Pro Bowls did he make as a fullback? I'm fairly confident Mike Sellers can handle those duties. Still not sure what the answer is to that double team question, but I highly doubt Portis, Cooley and all three wideouts will run routes on passing plays. I expect if the team uses Sellers in a blocking capacity, any one of the halfback, tight end, or receivers will leave the field to accommodate that demand. As for the questions about KC's offensive success: I think that an elite o-line coupled with solid RBs and ultimately excellent play calling and scheming was responsible for the team's offensive success. With our starting o-line going into its third year together, I'm sure we'll be fine. And RB is a definite strength for us. As for play calling and scheming, Gibbs, Saunders, etc. will make it happen. Why is everybody so worried?

Monksdown
05-19-2006, 08:44 PM
It's a valid point.
Are you saying we arent going to double strahan or Uminyora? If we are doubling one of the(or both) who will be blocking? if cooley is blocking, is it save to say his production will be down? If cooley isnt blocking, is it safe to say he is by the cheerleaders on the sidelines?

what about demarcus ware for dallas?can our guys handle him one on one? Javon kearse?

Sometimes people are so narrow minded. Football is chess not checkers people...

Thank you for that. I didnt realize the complexities of the game until you described them to me. I'll defer, but not to you.

And I forgot why we overpayed for a blocking TE this offseason. And all of last season, I didnt see Clinton and Chris both help the tackles out briefly and then release into the flat or right over the middle to pick up first downs. Call me narrow minded again, prick, and we can debate something more important than your analysis of my analysis on something neather of us understands.

jamf
05-19-2006, 09:09 PM
Call me narrow minded again, prick, and we can debate something more important than your analysis of my analysis on something neather of us understands.
would question 3 be a good topic?

TrustinGibbs
05-20-2006, 12:31 AM
If this offense is explosive and we win alot of games 4 of our 5 offensive linemen are potential Pro Bowlers IMO. Thomas and Samuels have been there, Jansen has been snubbed in the past and CR is above average. Put it another way...If Dockery is your "weak link" your offensive line cannot be that bad.

Monksdown
05-20-2006, 01:27 AM
would question 3 be a good topic?

touche

EXoffender
05-21-2006, 12:03 PM
Our OL is way better than average. And Cooley will excel wherever he lines up.

Paintrain
05-21-2006, 12:10 PM
Everyone forgets that Saunders employed a fullback fairly often. Anybody remember Tony Richardson? How many Pro Bowls did he make as a fullback? I'm fairly confident Mike Sellers can handle those duties. Still not sure what the answer is to that double team question, but I highly doubt Portis, Cooley and all three wideouts will run routes on passing plays. I expect if the team uses Sellers in a blocking capacity, any one of the halfback, tight end, or receivers will leave the field to accommodate that demand. As for the questions about KC's offensive success: I think that an elite o-line coupled with solid RBs and ultimately excellent play calling and scheming was responsible for the team's offensive success. With our starting o-line going into its third year together, I'm sure we'll be fine. And RB is a definite strength for us. As for play calling and scheming, Gibbs, Saunders, etc. will make it happen. Why is everybody so worried?
Because it's the offseason and some clowns have nothing better to do.

jamf
05-21-2006, 12:28 PM
some clowns...

It's a valid question. I personally would rather see the ball in Randle Els hand instead of cooleys. I couldnt care less if he caught 1 ball all year or 80.

Hey, If you can't handle a simple question go join the circlejerk at www.ilovetroyaikmen.com and tell each other how great you look.

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