Ladell Betts in Saunders' offense

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724Skinsfan
05-17-2006, 01:03 PM
I hope he is utilized a lot more. Two of my favorite plays from last year involve him. One was the 94 yard kick return TD, the other was the hit he put on Terrence Newman.

dmek25
05-17-2006, 01:30 PM
hey 724,ask dboyz his opinion on that play with newman:)

That Guy
05-17-2006, 01:33 PM
betts is not larry johnson, and our OL line is not KC's.

he'll get his 300-400 yards. he's a decent back up that could start for a team with a bad RB situation, but not much more. Rock isn't really that huge a fall off in production (though he's more shifty and less power), so i'm not concerned over overly optimistic about the stats of our #2 rb.

If it was possible for portis to be in every snap, that's what i'd do, since you can bust very long runs more easily against stacked boxes than spread defenses. I realize killing portis isn't smart though and using betts more late in the game would be best for the team by keeping everyone fresh.

jamf
05-17-2006, 01:47 PM
I guess im the only one that thinks betts sucks. He isnt that big or fast and he is too delicate for a RB. I think Rock is a better option.

ChickenMonkey
05-17-2006, 08:50 PM
I guess im the only one that thinks betts sucks. He isnt that big or fast and he is too delicate for a RB. I think Rock is a better option.


Yehh u guessed right ur the only one..

SkinsLove24/7
05-17-2006, 10:15 PM
Yehh u guessed right ur the only one..

That's so true because Betts, even though he doesn't see much action, is a solid backup. He had a few good runs when they would take out CP and the end of a game. And even if there is not much to flashy or good to say about him there is no reason to bash or doubt him. Solid backup.

jamf
05-17-2006, 11:13 PM
Stats:
Ladell Rock
Carries: 89 27
Yards: 336 199
Yards Per Carry: 3.8 7.4
TD's: 1 2
FUMBLES: 3 1



Rock had a long touchdown against the rams so that bumps up his per carry average.

But ladell has 3 fumbles and a 3.8 ave...
And dont say he is the short yardage back, he isnt. he splits time with portis. Ladell comes in for a series at a time, not situational.

I'm not saying rock is the answer, but I just dont see ladell being able to carry the load in this league.

Schneed10
05-17-2006, 11:23 PM
Side-by-side comparison of Rock's numbers and Ladell's numbers is terribly misleading. Rock got most of those 27 carries against a Rams run defense that was absolutely putrid. In other words, he was basically carrying the ball in garbage time. Betts actually spelled Portis in situations that mattered.

Secondly, if Ladell Betts is your starting RB I think you're kind of in trouble. I don't think he's a savior, if he's starting for your team then you don't have the greatest RB situation. But he definitely doesn't suck, that doesn't make any sense. He attacks holes with more authority than Rock and he gets better yardage after initial contact. He has also proven that he can grind out a 100 yard game while carrying 20+ times. He's reliable and consistent, if you need 4 yards, he's going to get you 4 yards. Just don't expect him to break any 50 yard TD runs, or else you're asking too much of your backup RB.

jamf
05-18-2006, 12:01 AM
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005

I know it sounds like i'm trying to bash the guy, I have not seen one thing that says he can carry the ball as the primary runner.

Check out his stats during "The Run to the Playoff". the only game he averaged 4 yards per carry was the philly game and that was because he had more than half his yards on one play. He runs too high, he gets hit too hard and he fumbles too often.

freddyg12
05-18-2006, 01:05 PM
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/302176/gamelogs/2005

I know it sounds like i'm trying to bash the guy, I have not seen one thing that says he can carry the ball as the primary runner.

Check out his stats during "The Run to the Playoff". the only game he averaged 4 yards per carry was the philly game and that was because he had more than half his yards on one play. He runs too high, he gets hit too hard and he fumbles too often.

If you're going to go on stats alone, be fair & look at some of the games he started before Portis was signed - 03 season. Not to mention the last game of 04 against Minn. he put up 100+. The guy runs tough & I disagree that he runs too high. He's gotten a few first downs for us on 3rd & 3 situations. My concerns w/him are his blocking & his injuries. I don't think he's that fumble prone though he's coughed it up a few times. When he carried the ball a lot in 03 I don't think he fumbled much. Bottom line to me he's a good back up, could start on a few teams.

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