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warriorzpath
05-17-2006, 01:34 PM
I bet when they were showing TO around the cowboys stadium, that must've been a little awkward.

... and over there, that's the err ... the star ... you stood on (and basically shitted on).

warriorzpath
05-17-2006, 01:38 PM
I can't believe that TO's not in Dallas, working out. I would've thought he would be doing situps without his shirt on, on the Cowboys star in the middle of the field.

#56fanatic
05-17-2006, 02:05 PM
Just by reading some of the posts, I am a bit puzzled why the "experts" are saying Arch is a liability in pass coverage. The reason I say that is because :
1) Arch will (I think) be used more for run support. If we go back to a couple of games where Taylor wasn't in the game teams beat us deep. Taylor is used generally as the deep help, especially on passing downs.
2) our defense does not employ a FS and SS. They are SAFETYS, period. The signing of Arch was done primarily as a run support safety, that can help some in pass coverage. We started the look for a safety when Clark got bulldozed by LT in overtime last year.

Now, I can see the reasoning in the overpay category. We had to overpay Randel El and Arch to get them to sign. They both wanted to play in Chicago for their own personal reasons, but chose the Redskins strictly by what we offered in terms of dollars. Plus, we dont really know what they are going to do in the offense. Both guys are not really proven in terms of what we paid. Randel El brings some things to the table in terms of special teams, and trick plays, but has never been a proven everydown WR. Lloyd is young and I believe his numbers are a bit inflated because the 49ers were so bad last year and played from behind virtually all of last year, so they were forced to throw the ball a good bit.

As far as Andre C goes, I think GMs and the "experts" are looking at last year stats. This is an error on their part because he basically played an OLB in a 3-4 defense. He stood up almost all the time. He will be back to his DE position in our 4-3 defense and back with his hand on the ground. He also will provide a little versatility where he can stand up and rush the passer ala lawrence taylor.(i am not comparing the two, only pass rushing positions)

724Skinsfan
05-17-2006, 02:32 PM
well yeah you have

there's SD,SF,almost Oakland drop ball in the endzone, Car, KC, NYG, PHI.

I'd be a little embarrassed to admit you had to come from behind to beat SF. Also, Bledsoe didn't beat the Giants, the Giants came back to force OT and Cortez kicked a field goal. You probably would have lost to Philly if Williams hadn't returned an interception for the game winning TD.

Actually, aside from that I am a little impressed that Bledsoe did have 4 legitimate comebacks last year!

#56fanatic
05-17-2006, 03:23 PM
I'd be a little embarrassed to admit you had to come from behind to beat SF. Also, Bledsoe didn't beat the Giants, the Giants came back to force OT and Cortez kicked a field goal. You probably would have lost to Philly if Williams hadn't returned an interception for the game winning TD.

Actually, aside from that I am a little impressed that Bledsoe did have 4 legitimate comebacks last year!

Dude, I am by no means a Dallas fan, hate em! but you keep raggin on Bledsoe when I think its because it only because he is a Cowboy. He has been mentioned as a future hall of famer. Go back and look at his numbers, career numbers, and see how he matches up in the books. his passing numbers, from what I remember, are pretty good.

On a side note, I hope he throws about 4 picks and gets sacked 10 times against us this year. plus a concussion!

D'BOYZ
05-17-2006, 03:40 PM
Wow that's impressive - including the Oakland loss/almost come from behind/still a loss. You were itching to use that comeback thing weren't you. Good job.

Too bad Bledsoe couldn't lead the patriots to a superbowl victory and watched on the sideline while someone else did. One from the opposing team and once from his own team's bench. And too bad he couldn't lead himself to comeback from losing his starting spot to a low draft choice in his second year.

So in your opinion a leader is a player that Won a Superbowl or lead it's team to a superbowl victory? so there are no leaders in your team? and yes he lost his job to uuuhhh a 3 time SB champion it's not like he lost it to Ryan Leaf.

Man just because there's are rivally between teams you have to bring ridiculus arguments man come un be better then that, or just say dallas Sucks is a smarter comment that what you just said.

No leaders hahaha.

warriorzpath
05-17-2006, 03:44 PM
So in your opinion a leader is a player that Won a Superbowl or lead it's team to a superbowl victory? so there are no leaders in your team? and yes he lost his job to uuuhhh a 3 time SB champion it's not like he lost it to Ryan Leaf.

Man just because there's are rivally between teams you have to bring ridiculus arguments man come un be better then that, or just say dallas Sucks is a smarter comment that what you just said.

No leaders hahaha.

No he's not a leader because he couldn't lead a team that had all the pieces in the patriots to a superbowl win. Someone else was able to do that immediately after taking over the team: Tom Brady.

724Skinsfan
05-17-2006, 03:45 PM
You're right, I do rag on Bledsoe a lot on this board. The funny thing is he is the only NFL player I have met in person and thought that he was genuinely a terrific guy. I met him at the PGA championship in Rochester. Bills training camp was going on at the time and I stumbled into an opportunity to meet some of the players as a "family member" of one of the golfers. He was super nice and not seemingly due to any obligation. Unfortunately for him, he's a Cowboy and will always receive criticism from me until he puts on a new uniform or retires.

warriorzpath
05-17-2006, 03:49 PM
Bledsoe, in my opinion, just doesn't have it to be a leader. He just doesn't seem to inspire anyone with his play.

And HOF - now that's funny to me.

D'BOYZ
05-17-2006, 03:50 PM
Just by reading some of the posts, I am a bit puzzled why the "experts" are saying Arch is a liability in pass coverage. The reason I say that is because :
1) Arch will (I think) be used more for run support. If we go back to a couple of games where Taylor wasn't in the game teams beat us deep. Taylor is used generally as the deep help, especially on passing downs.
2) our defense does not employ a FS and SS. They are SAFETYS, period. The signing of Arch was done primarily as a run support safety, that can help some in pass coverage. We started the look for a safety when Clark got bulldozed by LT in overtime last year.


OK there's a problem with your statement if the redskins don't employ a FS and a SS and they're are both Safetys that means that both have to do run support and coverage support in that case it just null's your previous statement.

Is the fact the Archuleta will be use as a SS that covers the middle passes and helps in run support that he'll work in Williams system even though he was overpaid and we all have agreed that and I can agree with your statement that you needed to overpay to lour him out of other teams. Because you needed a SS to cover the middle so taylor can focus on coverage.

And yeah Randall has to show that he can be more of a gimmick/ retuner player to be worth his value.

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