Brunell in Saunders's offense ?

We're STILL talking about this a day later?! :doh:

again, all of those guys (and warner) had 4-5 full years as starters by the time they hit 35, so they were good enough to prove they should start for multiple years. collins has had 1 ho-hum year as a starter to this point...

you still have yet to show a QB who started at 35+ after doing nothing and was successful. naming guys with 5 years of ACTUAL playing time (100+ games w/ pre/post season) and a super bowl before 35 isn't really much in the way of proof.

Yeah, gannon started a whole bunch of games before he got to the raiders when he was almost 34, but he didn't accomplish anything. He was a journeyman by definition before he succeeded with the raiders.

Did you know he had a one year stint with the redskins ?

Yeah, gannon started a whole bunch of games before he got to the raiders when he was almost 34, but he didn't accomplish anything. He was a journeyman by definition before he succeeded with the raiders.

Did you know he had a one year stint with the redskins ?

Actually he was with the Skins for two seasons

Profile (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1034)

We're STILL talking about this a day later?! :doh:

I mean, this isn't even thread worthy is it?? Collins??

We're STILL talking about this a day later?! :doh:

You know what, I don't think we're getting anywhere. I feel like I'm chasing my tail.

There's just 2 schools of thought here.

My 2 points here are:
(1) See someone play and then grade him. Don't use stats, playing time whatever before watching someone play. Others use stats and playing time first to judge a player, then watch him play. I use stats to back up what I see.
And..
(2) I take someone's word for what it is if that person has earned my respect, namely Saunders. Until he lies or shows otherwise, he has earned my respect of believing his words. I believe him and don't think he is exagerating or any of that. That's my opinion until he disproves me.

That's where I'm coming from.

Actually he was with the Skins for two seasons

Profile (http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1034)

Sorry, gannon started a few games one season for the redskins.

You're saying Saunders is trying to motivate a #2 qb on the depth charts. Why ?

Are you saying Collins doesn't deserve some props? Are you the judge of who the coaches should compliment?
Todd Collins left a city and a team that he has been with for years to come here with Saunders and help get our QB's ready in this new system, and compete for a back up job.
Saunders is thanking him for coming to help.
Is that such a stretch for you?
Other wise you can believe that Collins is the best QB technician that Saunders he has ever coached. LOL

Are you saying Collins doesn't deserve some props? Are you the judge of who the coaches should compliment?
Todd Collins left a city and a team that he has been with for years to come here with Saunders and help get our QB's ready in this new system, and compete for a back up job.
Saunders is thanking him for coming to help.
Is that such a stretch for you?
Other wise you can believe that Collins is the best QB technician that Saunders he has ever coached. LOL

No, see: previous post (not the one with gannon). That's what I'm saying.

[quote=warriorzpath]I feel like I'm chasing my tail.

See thread in parking lot. 15 reasons to have a tail!!

See thread in parking lot. 15 reasons to have a tail!!

Yeah I saw that thread already. And it's funny - I was just thinking about that thread.