H-back Position Disappearing ?

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Warpath
05-12-2006, 03:05 PM
I guess in my mind, I wasn't convinced that Saunders would be in total control of the offense. Of course I knew he could do what he wanted to do with the offense, but complete rein (sp) ? I wasn't so sure of (complete rein).

And to me, free reign and complete control are 2 different things. One being the ability to change anything you want to something, the other being yours and yours only.

I think they are basically the same thing. I mean if Saunders "can do what he wants to with the offense" then Im assuming its his.

warriorzpath
05-12-2006, 03:07 PM
I think they are basically the same thing. I mean if Saunders "can do what he wants to with the offense" then Im assuming its his.

Semantics or not - to me it's like you being able to change what you want with my car. But at the end of the day my name is still on the title.

dirthogs311
05-12-2006, 03:31 PM
I dont think it will be a complete offensive overhaul. If theres anything we dont need its that. We dont really want that. The system could have got us to the Super Bowl last year, but we ran out of gas and we ran out of WR's in the end. There will still be some Gibbs plays. He is the head coach, if he doesnt like the play he will overule it and change it to whatever he wants. I think we will see a slow transition from Gibbs offense to Saunders', until Gibbs retires when Saunders will have total control and Williams is the head coach.

TheMalcolmConnection
05-12-2006, 03:32 PM
BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

dirthogs311
05-12-2006, 03:36 PM
BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

Well thats not fair, he was injured, and I'm sure Gibbs did not want to take a chance with Pat Ramsey

warriorzpath
05-12-2006, 03:39 PM
I dont think it will be a complete offensive overhaul. If theres anything we dont need its that. We dont really want that. The system could have got us to the Super Bowl last year, but we ran out of gas and we ran out of WR's in the end. There will still be some Gibbs plays. He is the head coach, if he doesnt like the play he will overule it and change it to whatever he wants. I think we will see a slow transition from Gibbs offense to Saunders', until Gibbs retires when Saunders will have total control and Williams is the head coach.

From just the simple reason that there will be no h-back, says to me that gibbs won't be able to overrule anything because Saunders will have complete control. Why the h-back reason ? Simply because they took away the one position that was the trademark of a gibbs offense- and how would he know more about Saunders's offense than Saunders (to overrule him) ?

I'm not saying this is a bad thing or it's going to be major transition/change (a bad choice of words earlier). But I don't think it's going to be a slow transition; it's Saunders's offense now.

TheMalcolmConnection
05-12-2006, 03:46 PM
Well thats not fair, he was injured, and I'm sure Gibbs did not want to take a chance with Pat Ramsey

Sure it's not fair, but I'm entitled to my opinion. I think he should have taken himself out of the game if he knew he was going to play like that.

warriorzpath
05-12-2006, 03:50 PM
There will still be some Gibbs plays.

I think there would be some Gibbs plays, if Saunders allows it or it happens to be in Saunders's playbook.

But I'm wondering: how can Gibbs really add plays or call plays without an h-back ?

Daseal
05-12-2006, 04:04 PM
Saunders and Gibbs branch from the same tree, so chances are the differences we see won't be too huge. I predict a bit more inspired playcalling, increased Portis and Cooley production. I wonder what our WRs will do this year, Saunders WRs never really did a whole lot.

As far as the Brunell issue goes. Im sure we can all agree when he's healthy hes a decent QB in the league. Good enough to manage games, not exactly someone I want to force to win a game (MNF Week 2 is the only one I can remember) but once Brunell gets a little nicked up he plays AWFUL, and nothing changes. That Tampa Bay playoff game made me vomit.

BigSKINBauer
05-12-2006, 04:05 PM
BRUNELL ran out of gas. I place that solely on him.

I say that if Randy didn't get hurt we would be there. Our run offense struggled and Brunell wouldn't have gotten hurt had there been Randy on the line. Thomas is a beast and its arguable that he is the best player on this offense, though we have Moss, Lloyd, Samuels, Cooley, and CP. Man we are going to be so fucking good next year.

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