Preseason NFC Rankings: Trailing the Giants and Cowboys?

the best arguement would be our defense against dallas.dboyz,what cha got to say about that?(dont forget the 35 we hung on your sorry asses with the playoffs on the line)

Sorry Malcom had to go last night didn't had time to continue with this here we go then.

Actually I checked the stats on the whole rush-pass thing. I retract my previous statement, HOWEVER the Skins without a doubt had a more prolific running attack and Dallas had a few more attempts than the Skins but without getting near the yardage per game the Skins had.

So we agree Redskins were more pass orientented last year and I agree they were more succesfull in their running attack than Dallas ( a lot had to do with the second half of the season when we lost Adams and the hole Oline colaps). We can also agree that with Sauder on board and the additions of Lloyd and Randall it will be an even more pass oriented offense this year, That's what in paper your team shows

Agreed


The good thing is, the Cowboys were right behind the Skins in rushes for the year, but the Skins averaged more than half a yard more.


Covered this in the past one


Hmmmmm. I would give you that. Honestly though, I still think Moss brings more to the table. It's just TOs past dominance. I think Moss is just now beginning to dominate, but I'll give you that.


I don't Agree with your Moss statement, he hasn't been consistant enough as TO has for the past years, This was the best year in yards Moss has had and he only scored 9tds and he had come off a bad year when he didn't even reach 1000, TO has posted double digit TD in 5 of the past 7 years and over 1000 in 6 of the past 7 (I'm excluding last year).

TO still is the most productive wideout in the NFL and the more feared or he shares that spot with only 2 players Harrison and Moss there are only 2 other WR that are starting to get the same kind of respect Chad Johnson and Steve Smith now if Moss shows the same consistency this year then you can start count him at starting to dominate.

I'll rank em:

1. Washington
2. Chicago
3. Carolina
4. Tampa Bay
5. Seattle
6. Dallas
7. Arizona
8. Giants
9. Falcons
10. Vikings
11. Eagles
12. Saints
13. 49ers
14. Lions
15. Rams
16. Packers



hahahaha man this is what the therm FAN glows and reallity just goes to the toilet.

Ok I don't disagree the redskins have a chance this year to go to the big game (as dallas does) but to put them right now as the best team in the NFC it's just wack

and putting chicago at #2 tampa #4, and last year NFC champion and contender at #5 and #3 to teams that only lost 1 important player each (hutchinson, Widerspoon) but cover the mayority of their holes is just not real.

Also putting Arizona a team that yes got james but have huge oline problems and haven't been consistant with their talent above the giants and Eagles wow also the rams below the 49 that don't have a team and detroit that don't have a qb it's huge .

hahahaha man this is what the therm FAN glows and reallity just goes to the toilet.

Ok I don't disagree the redskins have a chance this year to go to the big game (as dallas does) but to put them right now as the best team in the NFC it's just wack

and putting chicago at #2 tampa #4, and last year NFC champion and contender at #5 and #3 to teams that only lost 1 important player each (hutchinson, Widerspoon) but cover the mayority of their holes is just not real.

Also putting Arizona a team that yes got james but have huge oline problems and haven't been consistant with their talent above the giants and Eagles wow also the rams below the 49 that don't have a team and detroit that don't have a qb it's huge .Meh, come see me in January.

the best arguement would be our defense against dallas.dboyz,what cha got to say about that?(dont forget the 35 we hung on your sorry asses with the playoffs on the line)

Im really hung up here on that subject I really respect your defense, specially againts the run. I have said many times Washington is the best player in that D and 1 of the best LB in the league even thought Archuleta is an over achiver he will fit perfectly next to ST because of your defense (including coach) and the changes your team did in offense is that I consider them a SB contender. Your only weekness I can say is nickel cb, and pass rush (let's see how carter turns out), you can add LB (Mcintosh 1st yeari njure prone), I liked what I saw in rogers when he started in the second half for a first year player lets see if he shines this year also

Now dallas finally did the hole transition to the 3-4 and last year even thought we had 3 rookies and 3 first year starter on that Def it was one of the most domminat defense in the league, and with 1 year of expirience it can only get better our front 7 it's pro bowl caliber with ferguson, Spears, Canty, Ware, James,Ayodele and now Carpenter (wich was the best pick I really like this player) the secondary it's amazing with Henry, Newman,Glenn and Williams. we have also a lot of depth at the line to keep players fresh. It all comes down to FS, I really like Watkins our 5th pick but he might not start untill late in the season but with Coleman and Davis with 1 year on his belt I believe we have it covered.

I don't know man I really see 2 strong defense I guess it will come down on who makes the least mistakes and have the minority of injuries it's really close to call. On the defensive side

Meh, come see me in January.

Ok I'll save your prediction and mine and at season ends will see who was closer this is going to be fun

I just want to get something straight you're saying Was will have the best record at season ends right? your calling it by saying Was will have the best record and home field advantage right?

is so I have to make some adjustments to my list ot whom I believe will make it..... and if so you want to put something on it?.

I just want to get something straight you're saying Was will have the best record at season ends right? your calling it by saying Was will have the best record and home field advantage right?

is so I have to make some adjustments to my list ot whom I believe will make it..... and if so you want to put something on it?.Well, actually that list was supposed to be my power rankings as of right now. I don't necessarily think thats how the teams will end up at the end of the year, but if one excludes injury and schedule (the two most important factors in football), that is what I think it will be.

Independant of that list, I do believe that Washington will have the first seed in the NFC at 13-3. If you (or anyone) wants to go on the record with divisonal picks/conference seeding/weekly picks against me from now until the season, feel free to PM me and we can consider putting something on it. I do believe most of us here have a great deal of self pride, so bragging rights would make it interesting enough.

But if you consider yourself a gambling man, I feel that we could work something out.

Redskins>Dallas
The giants>Dallas
I don't know who is better b/w the skins and giants. Their QB is higher profile, their TE is great, their RB is amazing, their front 7 is AMAZING. WE have better WRs and a better DBs but our running back is just one of the best in the league and Cooley is amazing. Brunell plays as well as Eli does and our front 7 is strong but is nothing copared to theirs. Our coaches hopefully can make a difference but the 'boys are in for a rude awakening.

TO is NOT going to make this team a super bowl contender. Dallas maybe could win the division if they played in the north or the west but they fail to remember that this is the beast and as far as I am concerned they could very well be last in the division at the end.

look at the teams Redskins vs. Dallas

QB- Push
Oline- SKINS
RB-SKINS
TE- Push counting cooley as our TE
WRs- Lets go with a PUSH

Defense
Dline- SKINS
LBS-SKins
DBs- THe best saftey combo plus a top 10 pick and proven leader on the team SKINS.

I don't see how the boy's are better. They beat us in kicking but our return game with ARE is far greater.

Coaching staff- The skins have the greatest coaching staff in the history of the NFL. THat is not even being exaggerated. One could fairly easily argue Williams is the best D-cordinator in the league, also it wouldn't be hard to say that AS is the best O-cordinator in the league with his consistant top 5 rankings and often number 1s. WHat the fuck more would a team want? O lets just put in a HOF Coach with three rings and amazing playoff record into the mix.

TO is not going to make the team amazing, THAT is a Dan snyder move. We made A LOT of moves over the offseason but none were crazy high profile. We did it joe gibbs way and not Danny boy's. Jerry Jones took a page out of the 2000 skins' playbook and got TO. TO is going to be good but not one player in this league can completely change a team. I am not scared of that WR corp to be honest. Our DBs are going to have it easy. If they had kept Key then maybe I would be like fuck but they didn't so they exchanged a semi-crazy good receiver with a metally fucking insane d-bag that is a crazy good receiver.

Overall our pass game is better, our run game is better, our run stop is better, our pass D is better, our coaching staff is better, our home field advantage is better, we are better, and that 35-7 game will not reverse itself due to one player expecially when we adressed our needs as well.

TOs rap song has shown that he isn't any different.
“To the haters that said I wouldn't get my money. I'm laughing in your face. Ha! Ha! That's funny... Some said I was going to sign just a one year deal,what i got what I wanted 10 mill a year"-- and the cowboys were the only stupid team to offer TO more than he would make if he had somehow been able to stay with the eagles. To pay TO more after he did what he did is beyond stupid. Jerry Jones is an idiot and for the respect I have for the tuna i hope he didn't want this trade like some say because if he did he is desperate to win one without belichick.


BSB has got his popcorn ready.

Well, actually that list was supposed to be my power rankings as of right now. I don't necessarily think thats how the teams will end up at the end of the year, but if one excludes injury and schedule (the two most important factors in football), that is what I think it will be.

Independant of that list, I do believe that Washington will have the first seed in the NFC at 13-3. If you (or anyone) wants to go on the record with divisonal picks/conference seeding/weekly picks against me from now until the season, feel free to PM me and we can consider putting something on it. I do believe most of us here have a great deal of self pride, so bragging rights would make it interesting enough.

But if you consider yourself a gambling man, I feel that we could work something out.

Ok man I like it Ill PM you.
Let's say we give our preview list a the start of tranning camp and final 1 at the end of preaseason will work the other stuff in PM

OK