And the idiot of the year award goes to............

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That Guy
05-03-2006, 02:04 AM
the thing about casserly is that he always knows exactly what to do.... two years after the fact ;)

falcons + vick = 25,000 more season tickets sold. I can't think of a single defensive lineman that generates that kind of economic impact (and that's not including jerseys and caps and such). As for team needs, even though bush is a better player, they do have his spots covered fairly well (two #1 WRs, PB KR, good #1 RB, though a bit fragile).

anyways, for player stats:
http://web1.ncaa.org/d1mfb/mainpage.jsp

get them right from the source, you'll get better results ;) (go to team reports on the right). Its throwing up an error clicking on individual players right now though :( hopefully it fixed soon.

htownskinfan
05-03-2006, 02:17 AM
I think you did blow it on this one,even though I'm not high on casserly,this was kubiaks pick and charley went with it,charley said on the radio here that since he's been a gm he's never had a disagreement with a coach who their #1 pick would be,he made it sound like he pretty much picks who the coach wants for the first pick,after that there might be some disagreements on other players,he's pretty much blamed capers for the picks he's made that didnt turn out because thats who capers wanted,so even though I dont think he's an idiot for the williams pick because i dont think it was his call,his other picks and freeagent moves{philip buchanon}have sucked.he did have some good moves for the skins,I give him credit for that,but being close to the situation in houston has left me very unimpressed,now I'm starting to think that dirtbag,maybe you are right,maybe he is the idiot of the year,lol

CRT3
05-03-2006, 09:04 AM
I wasn't exactly criticizing Ditka. I was saying that since the Saints trading their draft away in retrospect didn't turn out good, this in turn caused the other teams afterwards to look at it and say 'well we want the #1 pick but we can't be like the saints a few years ago and trade away all our picks for one player'. I then brought up though that the bar might have been set by the Giants trading for Eli with their pick in that years draft, a 3rd rounder, and a 1st rounder the following year. Good point though concerning Casserly and his involvement with the Ditka trade.

In the end I have to admit giving Casserly the idiot of the year award might have been a bit premature (especially when canidates like the Bills and Kris Benson have been nominated). Only time will tell, and I will admit if Williams has a Seymour like impact then I will personally handwrite a letter to Mr. Casserly appoligizing for my harsh remarks.

So if you have anything to say give me your best shot, I've earned it.

I believe you have a better understanding of not calling Casserly an idiot but your point on Williams being the #1 is well documented. Cudos.

But really what #1 pick has succeded, they are few and far between.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ones

That Guy
05-03-2006, 10:01 AM
I believe you have a better understanding of not calling Casserly an idiot but your point on Williams being the #1 is well documented. Cudos.

But really what #1 pick has succeded, they are few and far between.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/history/ones

really depends on your definition of success... a lot of them lasted over 10 years and a bunch also made the HoF. and some of them (ie bo jackson) were doing very well until injuries ended their careers.

PSUSkinsFan21
05-03-2006, 10:17 AM
So with that said, I'd like to say that I still stand by the 'Texans shoulda picked Bush bandwagon.' At the same time I will admit that Williams wasn't as bad of a pick as I thought. However with a city that got burned by the last franchise that settled there that by ignoring the cries and demands of the fans when they felt this strongly about taking Bush should have caused them to yield to the fans. Worst case scenario you get a guy that sells more tickets and makes your offense more explosive. However if Kubiack thinks he can turn anyone into a 1200 yard rusher in case Davis gets injured than more power to him. Remember though Texans fans aren't nearly as loyal as us (though they are loyal in their own right) and if Williams turns into a bust they could be facing one hell of a backlash.


Winning games puts people in the seats too. A coach's and GM's job is to do what's best for the team. The fact that a certain player would sell more tickets might be a consideration for the owner, but should have no impact on the rest of the front office.

Hog1
05-10-2006, 02:58 PM
ESPN reporting that Casserly will resign today. They are stating that this is the last straw with MGMT as he passed on BUSH in the draft. Scapegoat by mgmt? Did they not have a unified draft attack plan in place WELL before the draft? Crazy!!!!!!!!

TheMalcolmConnection
05-10-2006, 03:00 PM
Everyone is going to shit their pants when Bush doesn't rush for the 2500 yards, receive for 1000 and return for 10 TDs like he was SUPPOSED to.

Hog1
05-10-2006, 03:15 PM
I wonder when that happens, if Casserly will suddenly be a Super Genius (albeit unemployed)??????

TheMalcolmConnection
05-10-2006, 03:23 PM
Yes. Mario Williams will have much more of an impact on the Texans than Bush would have. I WILL say this, if the Jets would have gotten Bush, he would have made a big impact on THAT team.

Hog1
05-10-2006, 03:52 PM
Unfortunately for Bush, The FIGHTIN' Saints scooped him up!
Don't you know dude is lookin' for tall buildings to bail off! The hero worship he is experiencing at this time will turn to something else when he realizes he has to block for himself as well

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