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jhold4th 05-01-2006, 02:46 PM Charley is a pile.
In November 93, Richie Pettibone was struggling in his first year as head coach. Charlie meets Norv at midfield prior to Cowboys v Redskins game to discuss coming to the Skins. A heinous crime. Charlie, for this reason, eeks out Norv as the worst person in Redskins history.
PSUSkinsFan21 05-01-2006, 02:46 PM Casserly was a Bush guy. Kubiak made this pick because Casserly is out the door. I don't think Casserly is any good either but you can't lay this decision on him really. As for those who think it was a good move. You do not pass on a guy universally regarded as the best player to come out of the draft in years. You do not draft a guy who had an ABOVE AVERAGE college career because he looks big and is fast. At the very least if you think you can get by on passing on Bush you HAVE to find a trade partner. It is called getting value out their pick. They drafted a guy who was not worthy of the first pick with the first pick. That is how you don't do it. You trade back and get some value. If they need defense help anyways Hawk is a safer bet. I gurantee they could have traded to 4 and picked Hawk. The market deteremines what a pick kis worth and they misspent theirs.
From what I heard, almost every team had Bush and Williams 1 and 2 in some order, so I'm not so sure most people in the NFL would agree that Williams was only above average.
I'll agree with you that they should have traded out of the pick, but you don't really know who they would have traded with. If it's the Saints, how much are they really going to get? If you trade with anyone other than the Saints, how do you know that the Saints won't pick Williams at #2? Then you don't have Bush, and you don't have Williams. I suppose they could still take Brick (which, I would actually call a great move if they were able to trade down to 4 and get him), but if you're really sold on Williams (as a lot of teams were), then you have to get your guy. At the end of the day, I don't think we can criticize all that much for the Texans taking a player maybe one position ahead of where he was projected.
PSUSkinsFan21 05-01-2006, 02:48 PM All in all its like asking the Texans if they would rather have Trevor Pryce or L. Tomlinson.
I'd be willing to bet Bush will never come close to being the back that L.T. is.
TheMalcolmConnection 05-01-2006, 02:59 PM I concur. Bush played on an all-star team. You see how many USC players got taken in the first two rounds?
PSUSkinsFan21 05-01-2006, 03:06 PM And every time he touched the ball he had fresh legs. I mean, if he's really THAT special, then why did USC give the ball to Lendell White more than Reggie Bush? If the Texans deserve the idiot award, then what about USC? They had the allegedly best college football player to come along since God-knows-when.......yet they didn't give him the ball on every play? Or even a majority of their running plays? Doesn't make sense to me.
ChickenMonkey 05-01-2006, 03:15 PM I concur. Bush played on an all-star team. You see how many USC players got taken in the first two rounds?
U cant consider USC an ALLstar tam if they didnt have Reggie Bush,,without Bush they would have sucked,,everytime they needed Offense(BLING) REGGIE BUSH. I had season tickets to the USC games, if bush wasnt there I couldnt have given them away.
MS
PSUSkinsFan21 05-01-2006, 03:16 PM U cant consider USC an ALLstar tam if they didnt have Reggie Bush,,without Bush they would have sucked,,everytime they needed Offense(BLING) REGGIE BUSH. I had season tickets to the USC games, if bush wasnt there I couldnt have given them away.
MS
Again, if he was so incredible, why wasn't he their primary RB? Why wasn't he in on every play?
redsk1 05-01-2006, 03:31 PM I'll go on record to say the Texans made a mistake in my opinion. When you have a chance to pick up a game changing RB (potentially), you gotta do it. Especially if you are the Texans. It changes their whole offense. They've made some upgrades to their line, they have some good WR's, and to add a Reggie Bush to the mix would instantly upgrade their offense. Teams would have to honor someone that could take it the distance from 80 yards out which would open up the field for everyone. Not to mention boost ticket/merchandise sales for their business.
Not to say that Williams won't be good but its much more of a risk taking an DE. Look at history.
htownskinfan 05-01-2006, 03:33 PM I heard charlie on the radio this moring,in fairness to him,this pick sounds more like this was kubiacks descision,when asked about trading down he said they had absolutely no offers at all to trade out of the pick,they contacted the jets and the jets werent interested,williams was the guy they wanted so they had to take him 1st because there were no trading partners
That Guy 05-01-2006, 04:28 PM bush was drafted on production, williams was drafted on potential.
the texans felt they had a PB returner, a good RB that can catch and 2 #1 WRs. I think bush should have been the pick anyways, but they decided williams would be a bigger improvement over what they already had.
the best WRs this draft were bush (all around) and vernon davis (not good on deep balls).
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