#56fanatic
05-01-2006, 09:35 AM
I knew we would go after a LB with our 2nd rounder, and not surprised at all that we had to move up to get him. What I am a little suprised at is we drafted so many defensive players. We still have no depth at O-line. I thought we may address those needs, but then again how many lineman would actually make the team drafted between the 5th and 7th rounds. Our draft grades from year to year aren't always going to be totally fair either. We throw draft picks away like they are deceased. So, we dont have many picks to get quality players. McIntosh was a quality pick. Smart dude, with sure tackel ability. I do think he is going to push our OLBs that are currently on the roster. Playing for Miami does make a difference, no matter who believes it or not. This school churns out more NFL players than most. Again, I dont put so much into what the experts give us as far as a grade, besides, this isn't school its the NFL draft. The only thing, I feel, that can be graded are how the player performs during or after a season. I dont care how hyped up a guy is coming out of school, that don't mean SH*T in the NFL>
We traded up a few years ago for some little known TE named Chris Cooley and he worked out ok.
jbcjr14
05-01-2006, 09:40 AM
I wouldn't be too concerned about the "experts". Let it all work itself out on the field. The coaching staff was happy with what they had prior to the draft and any additions were a plus. This team is young and is set up for a run!
If we come out of this draft with a starter in McIntosh and some depth with a couple of the other picks, I'm happy. Let's face it, chances are a couple of these guys won't make the team. Maybe there's a hidden gem amongst the later round picks, maybe not.
Either way, I really like McIntosh and he seems like your typical GW linebacker.
It's no secret the Skins don't build through the draft, so naturally the "experts" are going to give the Skins a crappy draft grade, and it's probably deserved unless those later round picks pan out.
All draft grades at this point are so subjective anyway. You really can't fairly judge a draft until 2-3 years down the line.
TrustinGibbs
05-01-2006, 09:49 AM
If you cannot rust one of the 5 greatest coaches in NFL history and THE greatest coaching staff EVER assembled...who are you going to trust...a bunch of sports writters?
Twilbert07
05-01-2006, 09:56 AM
If you cannot rust one of the 5 greatest coaches in NFL history and THE greatest coaching staff EVER assembled...who are you going to trust...a bunch of sports writters?
I agree; I totally trust Gibbs. It's Vinny who makes me a little nervous.
backrow
05-01-2006, 10:03 AM
I did not follow the NFL Draft quite as closely this year. I felt that our needs were met by the addition of Al Saunders, and of course the FAs we signed.
Lloyd was also a worthy pick-up, and will make our receiving corps extremely versitile, attacking from all sides!
I printed two mock drafts, and just left them on my desk. Both had multiple rounds, and both had Rocky McIntosh to the Redskins at 53. It could be argued that we could have gotten him without moving up, but, there was this run on LBs, and the Redskins FO already had a plan in place in case there was just such a scenario. So, moving up 18 spots was a wash.
To my amazement, I also found our first reported FA Spencer Havner, ILB from UCLA there in the Fourth round of one of the Mocks!
Now, the two Mocks could have changed at the last minute, just before the draft, but I printed last Wednesday. Here are the links:
http://www.eastcoastsportsnews.com/2006Draft.html
http://walterfootball.com/draft2006.php
In addition, I quote CNYSKINFAN from HailRedskins.com:
"Whether we selected him at #53 or #35 our next pick would have been a 5th rounder.
Again here is the draft breakdown vs. NFLdraftblitz.com's value chart
Quote:
Pick #35 550 points
Pick #53 370 points
That is a difference of 180 points
If you value next year's second as a third at the same position you are picking this year that is pick #85 which equals 165 points
This year's 6th (189) is 16.8 points
We gave up a total of 551.8 draft value points for a pick worth 550 draft value points. That is about as even as you can get and we got a player at a need position for us that can start right away.
McIntosh was listed in the top 40 players by many scouts and with Thomas Howard going at #38, a player rated lower then McIntosh, Rocky would have been gone at #53, and probably Howard as well as there is a big drop off in talent at LBer after him.
This was a great pick at a position of great need and a great trade to get him."
Major Props to CNYSKINSFAN, who I've met, and whose opinions I respect.
So, bottom line, we got the guy targeted, at a decent price. And we got some other FB players from what I've read here. Needs were met with FA. Spots were filled with the NFL Draft.
For those who put stock in the "NFL Draft Experts", and those who provide you Post-Draft Grades, you have to balance that with the players HOF Coach Gibbs targets.
In addition, you must add J. Campbell, and B. Lloyd into the mix because of what we gave up to get each of them. So, both should be part of our Draft grade.
724Skinsfan
05-01-2006, 10:06 AM
The guys drafted all seem to be of sound character and solid students of the game. Gibbs has always trusted in getting the most out of his hardest-working players.
skinsttw
05-01-2006, 10:08 AM
I think we had a solid draft. If we get one starter and two guys make the practice squad, then I will be happy. Maybe Havner will make the team also. Always remember Joe Jacoby the free agent Pro-Bowler.
TrustinGibbs
05-01-2006, 10:16 AM
I agree; I totally trust Gibbs. It's Vinny who makes me a little nervous.
I dont think Vinny does much of anything without Gibbs and in this case Williams stamp of approval. Gibbs and CO. make the decisions, Snyder writes the checks and Cerrato is along for the ride. Just my opinion though.