Grade Rocky McIntosh

Granted there's not much to grade from day 1... just one player Rocky McIntosh. But let's give him a grade anyway.

like the player, hate the price... 3 GREAT players were at the 35 spot, plenty survived to 53 as well. we lock in to individual players and sell the farm for them.

If he's good, then its a lot more forgiveable, and recent day 1 picks have been pretty decent, so i'm not really worried about him sucking, its just hard to see the need to trade up so high for HIM specifically with the talent available at BOTH 35 and 53.

just like college i never understood the no E in grading i think if one letter should stand for a word then all shoud

A=(over)achiever
B=better than a C
C=coulda done better
D=dumb luck that you passed
F=Failed to remember that E comes before F

for me, it's too early to grade him, since i didn't know much about him in college, and i dunno how he's gonna do in teh nfl. In 3 years i'll grade him.

Call it blind faith, but when I see the coaching staff get locked into a guy and go all out to get him, I get really excited. Gibbs and company have earned that blind faith if you ask me, they've been great with Day 1 picks. Taylor, Rogers, Cooley, Campbell (jury still out).

I love it. I'm very excited. I voted A.

I'd like to add (That Guy, please don't take offense) that all of the draft ratings and all that nonsense that people get so wrapped up in is just bogus. I don't care what Scouts.com says about a guy, or Mel Kiper, or whatever. If the player is someone that Joe Gibbs and Gregg Williams are excited about, then I tend to follow suit.

Not sure whether that makes me a homer or if it means that I simply tend to defer to some of the best football coaches in the game.

Well, he would have to be one hell of a player to justify the price for him.

But he doesn't have to be that great to satisfy me...I'll give it a B.

Seriously tho, our front office needs to learn how to negotiate. I tire of the many times when the initial offer is far more than the other party could ever have dreamed of...c'mon guys you are supposed to start on the other extreme.

all of the draft ratings and all that nonsense that people get so wrapped up in is just bogus. I don't care what Scouts.com says about a guy, or Mel Kiper, or whatever. If the player is someone that Joe Gibbs and Gregg Williams are excited about, then I tend to follow suit.

Not sure whether that makes me a homer or if it means that I simply tend to defer to some of the best football coaches in the game.

question, before today, would you rather have jimmy williams or mcintosh?

we don't have a need at OT or WR, even though those players are great too (jackson/justice), but if you'd have passed on williams for mcintosh last week, everyone would say you're nuts. (just move him to safety and turn archuleta into a linebacker :P)

Seriously tho, our front office needs to learn how to negotiate. I tire of the many times when the initial offer is far more than the other party could ever have dreamed of...c'mon guys you are supposed to start on the other extreme.

Are you on the other side of the negotiating table?

How are you so sure that the "initial offer is far more than the other party could ever have dreamed of"??

question, before today, would you rather have jimmy williams or mcintosh?

we don't have a need at OT or WR, even though those players are great too (jackson/justice), but if you'd have passed on williams for mcintosh last week, everyone would say you're nuts. (just move him to safety and turn archuleta into a linebacker :P)

For someone who knows so much about the draft, this is a pretty crazy statement to make. You want to move a 6-foot, 220 pound player to linebacker? That's not going to work, he'll get eaten alive by even the most benign blocking TEs.

Here's what I think is happening. A lot of us spend countless hours doing draft research and reading up and becoming experts on the draft. But when it comes down to it, we don't know 1% of what Gibbs and Williams know about the NFL. I'm sorry, no matter how good you think you are, you don't know jack in the grand scheme.

None of us are watching film and breaking it down, none of us are attending games and scouting, none of us are interviewing the players. We get all the info second-hand and act like we might be able to make an informed decision. It's just pointless. We can't. It's a large waste of time.

You can't say Jimmy Williams would be any better than Rocky McIntosh without simply repeating a bunch of information you found on the internet. It's basic regurgitation and it's meaningless. All I know is Gibbs and Williams wanted him, and that to me says a lot. I guess we'll find out in the coming years.