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hooskins 04-30-2006, 01:16 AM I am only talking about a few inches, but Sin.Mos is TINY! He is 5-8, even I am bigger than him. And I dont think he is more than 180 max, this guy is smaller than Santana and Steve Smith, by a lot I think. I do think after a certain high, say past 5-9 or 10 its gotta be harder for you. Maybe the tighter interference rules will help him, but I still gotta think he is a bit overhyped.
mooby 04-30-2006, 01:16 AM Well, have they already given up on Tuck after one season, in which he probably didn't play much due to the great play of the starters? I mean, it's not like Osi is getting old, he's only been in the league for 3 years.
That Guy 04-30-2006, 01:21 AM Undoubtedly. I think they got the most value from their picks. While the Jets made out well too, the Eagles got the most value from their picks. The only team that might have done better is the Cardinals.
broncos got cutler and a true proven #1 (though he'll cost a ton).
rams had a VERY good outing (4-5 starters, depending on whether they go 2 TE or 3 WR):
tye hill CB
jon alston OLB
claude wroten DT (talent, but some arrests)
dominique byrd TE
joe klopfenstein TE
they aren't kidding about trying to fix that D either.
SanFranSkinsFan 04-30-2006, 01:47 AM I am only talking about a few inches, but Sin.Mos is TINY! He is 5-8, even I am bigger than him. And I dont think he is more than 180 max, this guy is smaller than Santana and Steve Smith, by a lot I think. I do think after a certain high, say past 5-9 or 10 its gotta be harder for you. Maybe the tighter interference rules will help him, but I still gotta think he is a bit overhyped.
I still wish we had him. We could cut Patten and go with the "Moss Bros Connection." It's bad enough the Gmen have LaVar but hopefully Carlos will rough the rookie up and we all know that Sin. Moss be looking for Sean Taylor and Archuletta when he comes over the middle.
BrudLee 04-30-2006, 08:13 AM yeah, every team in this division, no in the conference is getting amazing and the skins are starting to look worse.
I would suggest just the opposite.
Two of the three teams in our division drafted players they need to contribute in the first year. The Eagles will be in big trouble if they don't get impact minutes out of Bunkley, and Justice may unseat Tra Thomas. The Cowboys will need significan't time from Fasano (who will be taking the 2nd TE spot), and Carpenter should start opposite Ware.
The problem with that is that counting on rookies to be integral members of a championship squad is an absolute crapshoot. While first round busts get all the press, players from all over the board wash out every year. Expecting excellence from draftees is good, requiring it for success ultimately leads to disappointment.
dmek25 04-30-2006, 08:27 AM im reading tra thomas might retire due to ongoing back issues.justice had better be ready.other than qb,this might be the toughest position to play right away and suceed
Beemnseven 04-30-2006, 08:43 AM Well, have they already given up on Tuck after one season, in which he probably didn't play much due to the great play of the starters? I mean, it's not like Osi is getting old, he's only been in the league for 3 years.
I thought taking Kiwanuka was a brilliant pick. The way defensive ends can flame out on an instant is all the more reason to take him. Sooner or later, Strahan will start showing his age. If you're set pretty much everywhere else, and the Giants are for the most part, then you've got to take the best player you believe is available.
Now, let's apply that philosophy to offensive tackle: Assuming we were set at linebacker, and according to Gibbs, that was the one area where we were a little "thin", Winston Justice would have been a perfect pick for us -- assuming we still made the trade to move up to #35. Samuels and Jansen are the bookend tackles who we can depend on to anchor our line for more seasons to come. But having a highly rated backup who can learn the system, perhaps play some at guard when he's needed, and be there when one of them gets injured can be a vital aspect to any team. The same is true for the Giants at defensive end, or any other team at any position.
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