Depth Chart

Dave Fiore a starting guard? The guy has not stepped on the field in almost a year. He might retire due to bad knees. This is a reach.
I hate to see Trung Canidate listed as #2 RB. I would rather see Ladell Betts.
We need to aquire a reliable backup, that can stay healthy.

out of 90 players, only 19 are new. That's only 21.1% turnover. Tampa won the super bowl with a much higher turnover rate.

haha, to bad that out of the 22 starters atleast 10 of them are new... Brunell, Portis, Raymer, Daniels, Griffin, Washington, Taylor, Barrow, Springs, Rasby...if Cooley starts that makes 11, which is 50% turnover. That the Bucs definitly did not have.

Has anyone heard anything good coming out of camp on Gardiner?

JoeCrisp?
Gardner didn't make any real standout plays during the minicamps, but I did notice him dropping a couple of passes. I guess I noticed that more because I'm kind of looking for that from Gardner. I wasn't very impressed with his route-running, either. He tends to round off his routes a little bit, and lacks the crispness that you see from Jacobs and Coles. I also would like to see him attack the ball more. He has a tendency to wait on passes instead of going after them, which opens up the opportunity for the defensive backs to make a play on the ball. He really needs to learn to use his size to fend off defenders and get the ball.

Basically the same old Gardner to this point. Hopefully, he steps it up a couple of notches in training camp.

I'd say this depth chart is a little inaccurate in a couple of spots.

You guys have already mentioned the obvious ones: Fiore as starting left guard (Dockery or Friedman are strong possibilities there with Fiore likely to retire), Cartwright at fullback (he should be 3rd on the RB depth chart, behind Portis and Betts), Canidate as the #2 RB (he'll likely be cut by training camp), and Ohalete as the starting strong safety (he should be 2nd behind Bowen at SS, or behind Taylor at FS).

I think these guys are making assumptions based on the experience of the respective players, and aren't taking into account the way things are shaping up in the latest minicamps.

Gardner didn't make any real standout plays during the minicamps, but I did notice him dropping a couple of passes. I guess I noticed that more because I'm kind of looking for that from Gardner. I wasn't very impressed with his route-running, either. He tends to round off his routes a little bit, and lacks the crispness that you see from Jacobs and Coles. I also would like to see him attack the ball more. He has a tendency to wait on passes instead of going after them, which opens up the opportunity for the defensive backs to make a play on the ball. He really needs to learn to use his size to fend off defenders and get the ball.

Basically the same old Gardner to this point. Hopefully, he steps it up a couple of notches in training camp.

As much as a stickler Gibbs is for being precise, I can't see Gardner continuing to be a starter if he is not crisp without pads, it's not like he's a better game-player than practice player, he makes the same mistakes.. I can see them putting Jacobs and McCants higher on the depth chart. A training camp trade is unlikely, but that is the one position we probably can afford to make a deal from.

I'm not sure why they slotted a fullback in the 'Skins depthchart.

It's strange because they accomodate teams that run a 3-4 by including a slot for NT.

Gibbs doesn't really use a fullback, so it's sort of silly to have Rock listed as the starting fullback.

I think it would have been more realistic to have Rasby at TE and Sellers at H-Back.
Yeah, I thought that was kind of odd, too.

You're right, Drift. The true fullback position doesn't really exist in Gibbs' offense. They should have Rock at runningback (Bugel and Gibbs have made it clear that he's too small to play H-back); with Sellers, Cooley and Ware at H-back, and Rasby, Koslowski, Royal and Stephens at TE.

Gardner didn't make any real standout plays during the minicamps, but I did notice him dropping a couple of passes. I guess I noticed that more because I'm kind of looking for that from Gardner. I wasn't very impressed with his route-running, either. He tends to round off his routes a little bit, and lacks the crispness that you see from Jacobs and Coles. I also would like to see him attack the ball more. He has a tendency to wait on passes instead of going after them, which opens up the opportunity for the defensive backs to make a play on the ball. He really needs to learn to use his size to fend off defenders and get the ball.

Basically the same old Gardner to this point. Hopefully, he steps it up a couple of notches in training camp.

You hit it on the head JC same old Gardner, he lack's the true instinct's of a WR and alway's will, we should trade him while he still has some kind of value.