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That Guy 04-08-2006, 07:13 AM Lions | Two key wide receivers not impressing the coaching staff
Thu, 6 Apr 2006 21:08:56 -0700
Tom Kowalski, of mlive.com, reports just three short weeks into the Detroit Lions offseason conditioning program, sources said WRs Charles Rogers and Mike Williams have not impressed the new coaching staff. Rogers has been attending the workouts but the coaches have been underwhelmed by his attitude and focus. Rogers' alleged reputation for being a partier remains. Williams didn't show up for any of the workouts last week. His agent said he left because of a "family matter.'' Williams is reportedly out of shape and overweight. Both wide receivers will need to improve their focus, or they could find themselves battling for a roster spot.
SURPRISE!!!
GoSkins! 04-08-2006, 08:54 AM Repeat after me... character counts. And it counts more than all the draft day analyists will admit to. How many of us wanted Williams on draft day?
3rd ID SOLDIER 04-08-2006, 08:58 AM you are right i wanted that dude bad! how wrong i was !
freddyg12 04-08-2006, 10:07 AM I thought williams was a special talent but not a sure thing, I certainly didn't favor him over carlos rogers or one of the other top cb's last year.
In their defense, these guys have a long ways to go & there's been such a dysfunctional vibe in detroit that it will probably take a good ass whippin to get them to come around. there's plenty of time though & you can't expect williams to light it up just yet, its only his 2nd year coming up.
Beemnseven 04-08-2006, 10:22 AM I thought williams was a special talent but not a sure thing, I certainly didn't favor him over carlos rogers or one of the other top cb's last year.
In their defense, these guys have a long ways to go & there's been such a dysfunctional vibe in detroit that it will probably take a good ass whippin to get them to come around. there's plenty of time though & you can't expect williams to light it up just yet, its only his 2nd year coming up.
Bingo. The Detroit Lions are such a woeful, floundering "organization", this is exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from younger, unfocused players. In every single regard, the Matt Millen experiment has been disasterous.
freddyg12 04-08-2006, 10:30 AM Bingo. The Detroit Lions are such a woeful, floundering "organization", this is exactly the kind of thing you'd expect from younger, unfocused players. In every single regard, the Matt Millen experiment has been disasterous.
and that's why sometimes you see players leave for another team & suddenly flourish, e.g. santana moss. I think M. Williams could be a decent player for gibbs, but he's not gonna be much there until detroit gets some stability.
That Guy 04-08-2006, 10:45 AM and that's why sometimes you see players leave for another team & suddenly flourish, e.g. santana moss. I think M. Williams could be a decent player for gibbs, but he's not gonna be much there until detroit gets some stability.
moss wasn't unfocused, and the jets weren't terrible, its just that he's a speed guy, and mixing him with one of the weakest armed QBs in the league and negating his speed isn't exactly "smart." I guess it is an organizational thing...
Daseal 04-08-2006, 12:00 PM That Guy -- How many of Moss' yards came on throws under 10 yards this year? I believe a majority of them. He got a few over the top, but most were dinks and dunks that his speed took advantage of.
Part of the problem with young players is you need a coaching staff to keep them focused. It's a sad day. I really liked CHarles Rogers at Michigan State and I hated Mike WIlliams at first but he grew on me. THat said, he was never exactly skinny and in shape.
Either way, I really want to see the Lions do well. I've been pulling for them ever since they've had the best player in league history IMO (Barry Sanders). Feel bad for teams who are consistantly in the basement.
Beemnseven 04-08-2006, 12:10 PM That Guy -- How many of Moss' yards came on throws under 10 yards this year? I believe a majority of them. He got a few over the top, but most were dinks and dunks that his speed took advantage of.
Part of the problem with young players is you need a coaching staff to keep them focused. It's a sad day. I really liked CHarles Rogers at Michigan State and I hated Mike WIlliams at first but he grew on me. THat said, he was never exactly skinny and in shape.
Either way, I really want to see the Lions do well. I've been pulling for them ever since they've had the best player in league history IMO (Barry Sanders). Feel bad for teams who are consistantly in the basement.
I agree. I'd like to see the Lions turn it around, too. But only because I hated Matt Millen as a broadcaster, and I don't want to see him doing color anymore.
jdlea 04-08-2006, 01:40 PM I think that part of the reason those wide outs don't have any disclipine is because there is no veteran leadership on that team. Not at wide out at least and Maricucci was a sissy. He lets players walk all over him. I remember during the Thanksgiving game they were saying that Roy Williams told them that he was looking for a vet to teach him how to do certain things in the NFL. ie study film. Without that, it's hard to get players to focus and play up to their potential.
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