That Guy
04-07-2006, 06:31 PM
I've seen people get hit in the head by a golf club and spend months in the ICU. I've seen people tear ACLs running on the beach during a 'relaxing' vacation in the Carribean. etc etc
I've also seen myself ride ATVs for the past 18 years and never get hurt. I've seen relatives race dirtbikes professionally for 10+ years and never get hurt.
that still doesn't mean there's not a high risk level involved. Your single antedotal evidence is not enough for a valid conclusion. If you look at the % of people injured while running vs the % of people hurt motorbiking etc, i'm pretty sure you'd already know which relative percentage would be higher.
Pocket$ $traight
04-07-2006, 07:24 PM
He will be fine. Get over it.
cpayne5
04-07-2006, 08:17 PM
that still doesn't mean there's not a high risk level involved. Your single antedotal evidence is not enough for a valid conclusion. If you look at the % of people injured while running vs the % of people hurt motorbiking etc, i'm pretty sure you'd already know which relative percentage would be higher.
Actually, I would LOVE to compare these. Got some numbers???
5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.
Must be the offseason.
I agree with every single thing you said, Matty. Especially the bolded part. They're allowed to make whatever choices they want to make, but I'm also allowed to criticize their decisions if I think it's dumb.
And yes of course football is dangerous. Maybe even as dangerous as to ride ATVs, I don't know the stats on injury likelihoods. But he gets paid to do one, not the other. If you get hurt doing what you're paid to do, it's just part of the job.
I didn't say you or anyone else can't say anything about it, silly as it may be considering his injury shouldn't have an effect on his 2006 season.
cpayne5
04-07-2006, 08:32 PM
5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.
Must be the offseason.
Someone should start a LaVar thread. That should make you feel better. :D
Someone should start a LaVar thread. That should make you feel better. :D
I'm sure there are plenty of those on the way once he finally drops his asking price to a more reasonable figure and signs somewhere.
Schneed10
04-07-2006, 10:50 PM
5 pages dedicated to a non-issue... he's going to be fine.
Must be the offseason.
If we passed on discussing non-issues around here, we'd have very little to talk about this time of year. It's just a discussion on the principle of the matter.
Schneed10
04-07-2006, 11:00 PM
Actually, I would LOVE to compare these. Got some numbers???
That Guy is right. The golf club in the head thing? That's so absurd it makes me laugh. What's the probability that's going to happen to you if you go golfing? Tearing an ACL running on the beach? Just going for a jog right? Still extremely, absurdly low probability.
Getting on an ATV, much higher probability of injury. Maybe not as high for you, since you have tons of experience with it. For you it's probably relatively safe. But you also don't make a million dollars a year. No matter how good you are at it, and how careful you are with it, it's still dumb to risk losing your MILLION DOLLARS A YEAR.
If you want to assess how risky something is, simply look at an insurance premium to cover it. What costs more, the medical coverage on your Auto policy, or the medical coverage on your motorcycle policy? It's a no brainer. The motorcycle coverage costs more because it's riskier to your health than a car is. Cut and dry, those are facts you can look up instead of goofy probabilities of tearing an ACL while running on the beach.
You're also not simply concerned with the probabilty that an injury will occur. You also have to concern yourself with how bad the injury will be if I do get hurt. Running on the beach and tearing an ACL, though absurdly improbable, would put you out of work for a year. Flipping an ATV could paralyze you.
I'll argue this until I'm blue in the face. It comes down to people choosing "fun" over "smart". Rabach chose "fun", so I'm calling him dumb.
steveo395
04-07-2006, 11:14 PM
A regular joe risks his regular joe salary when he rides ATVs. He could get hurt an not be able to make it back to his 9-5.
A football player risks his NFL salary (for many it's in the millions) when he rides ATVs. BIG difference.
Rabach is already a millionaire and doesnt need money nearly as much as an average joe who needs each and every paycheck to get by. If somebody with a regular job couldn't work anymore, they would be a lot more screwed than an NFL player who is already a millionaire