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skins052bgr8 04-05-2006, 11:14 AM Yeah the plea bargain for the no jail time but a felony conviction may not hurt him that bad as long as he is in football, but is looked at poorly if he goes for other employment if he got hurt in football or the end of his career. He would never get a security clearance or probably ever any position that you have to be of a trustworthy nature or great accountability. Though it seems he is foolish with no jail/prison time and the assurance that he can play this year which is most fans motivation or preference it could still hold serious implications for his future.
saden1 04-05-2006, 11:23 AM A felony follows you for life. One should never ever accept any changes beyond a misdemeanor, and even that should be avoided at all cost.
12thMan 04-05-2006, 11:33 AM Yeah the plea bargain for the no jail time but a felony conviction may not hurt him that bad as long as he is in football, but is looked at poorly if he goes for other employment if he got hurt in football or the end of his career. He would never get a security clearance or probably ever any position that you have to be of a trustworthy nature or great accountability. Though it seems he is foolish with no jail/prison time and the assurance that he can play this year which is most fans motivation or preference it could still hold serious implications for his future.
Umm...not so sure that a felony conviction would keep him from getting a job of trustworthy nature or great accountability. Maybe not a security clearance. In fact, many police agencies accross the country are so hard up for help they are "re-visiting" their hiring practices.
Well, I can speak from my own personal experience that this isn't necessarily true.
hooskins 04-05-2006, 11:33 AM A felony follows you for life. One should never ever accept any changes beyond a misdemeanor, and even that should be avoided at all cost.
Yeah they always say take the fine and the misdemeanor, rather than the felony. But if he did take the felony charge, what would have happened? He would still play for the Skins right? However, I guess it says something about the weakness of the case if they can get a plea bargin down from 46 yrs to only a felony with no jail time. One more week lets see what happens.
Monkeydad 04-05-2006, 11:37 AM I agree...
If he was guilty, he wouldn't accepted this as a lesser punishment. I think the fact that he's not settling for this just to get out of the courtroom is an indication that he believes he's innocent. I think ParkerGibbs made a great point about having faith in the system if you know you're not guilty of the charges.
One thing I may think Taylor is guilty of would be hanging out with the wrong people. He DOES have a certain image that is often associated with criminals and by associating with people with that same image, he found himself amongst people that are going to get him in trouble or try to take advantage of his salary and status.
That's my take on it. I believe he'll be found innocent, but I hope he takes this as a life lesson and thinks a little more before he acts in the future.
Hogroll 04-05-2006, 11:54 AM I just had a discussion with my buddy that was a practicing attorney in Florida, Miami/Dade County. After forwarding him the article, and a little background, these are his thoughts:
It could settle as late as Friday afternoon... but I doubt it.. Miami Dade hates to settle anything high profile or in the news.. He's got a good self defense claim, could get off altogether. If he gets convicted it will be a lesser included offense and I would be shocked if he did any time....
...I would be shocked if he did time, even though he used a weapon.... it's not like he was robbing a place with a weapon...
I'm feeling pretty good about it..
Twilbert07 04-05-2006, 12:00 PM How nice is it that we even have to have this discussion at all? I wonder what Gibbs thinks about one of his best players cruising around town with a gun.
12thMan 04-05-2006, 12:05 PM How nice is it that we even have to have this discussion at all? I wonder what Gibbs thinks about one of his best players cruising around town with a gun.
There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?
And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.
hooskins 04-05-2006, 12:28 PM There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?
And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.
Of course thats not a good thing, but what 12th man is trying to say is, that everyone is all over ST like he is the worst person in the world, when we need to realize that this is an issue with alot of athletes and celebs. We should also address this problem as a whole, not through the "ST lenses". Human nature makes it very easy to put blame on one individual(scapegoat theory) rather than digging deep into the issue.
Twilbert07 04-05-2006, 02:31 PM There was no gun found, so who said he was cruising around town with a gun?
And honestly speaking, many athletes these days seem to "pack heat" (street vernacular) when they are out and about, probably out of fear of being confronted or targeted. Not sure, not condoning it, but it seems more and more common even by Hollywood types.
All right, let me ask you this. If some thugs stole Joe Gibbs' car, or his ATV, would he A) Call the police and let them handle or B) Go straight into the hood and try to beat the sh*t out or those he thinks stole it?
In other words, Skins players have to be thinking: What Would Joe Do?
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