Did the Giants cut Collins to soon?

what was the logic in getting rid of Collins? I didnt even think Eli was going to start this year, I guess they forced him to start because they gave up so much. Were they in gap hell? why would they get rid of a mentor. I guess they didnt wnat Eli to pick up his drinking problem

wasn't collins gonna be like a 7 or 8 million $ cap hit? but i don't think they even tried to rework his contract. their giants front office's fate is that of eli cuz when he sucks they're gonna get canned. it's gonna be funny seeing the giants futility this year assisting the team eli kicked and screamed about going to.

Yeah, Collins was getting paid WAY too much to be a mediocre QB, and way way too much to ride the pine.

As far as Manning. He got a say in where he wanted to work, I'd do the same thing. San Diego is a pit of a football team. No future.

They have a slightly better O line, and a better back to back him up, so he'll take more sacks in NY, but he'll learn a lot more under Coughlin.

If Collins agreed to re-work his deal he'd still be there. But why should he have? The Giants just drafted the "QB of the future" (more like the present) and Collins would only be serving as a mentor. Collins still has a few more quality starting seasons left in him, if I was him I'd be looking for another starting job too.

If Collins agreed to re-work his deal he'd still be there. But why should he have? The Giants just drafted the "QB of the future" (more like the present) and Collins would only be serving as a mentor. Collins still has a few more quality starting seasons left in him, if I was him I'd be looking for another starting job too.


Exactly. If he took the huge pay cut and stayed he would have had to put the Giants in the playoffs and have an 6-1 TD-Int Ratio just to keep the job all year. Anyone on the planet see that happening? Everytime he threw an Int or took a sack, even if it was the WR or O-line's fault the boos and cheers would have came out. Plus the next day some jerk, who never played the game in his life would be writing in the NY papers that they should start Eli. Who would want to put up with that?

Does anyone really blame the Giants for starting Eli right away? Everyone saw the results of Peyton. A horrible first year, but high performance and great improvement in subsequent years. The G-Men are gonna be a real pain in the ass in 2-3 years.

Does anyone really blame the Giants for starting Eli right away? Everyone saw the results of Peyton. A horrible first year, but high performance and great improvement in subsequent years. The G-Men are gonna be a real pain in the ass in 2-3 years.

of course peyton also had an offense tailored to his skills with harrison, pollard, and james. i don't see eli having anywhere near the same weapons talent wise.

of course peyton also had an offense tailored to his skills with harrison, pollard, and james. i don't see eli having anywhere near the same weapons talent wise.

I see your point. But I intended that Eli will benefit from the experience of starting and making mistakes, much as Peyton did. I do not believe the Giants will win very many games this year because of Eli being a rookie and the reasons you mentioned. Again, you are correct that with their current talent level, they do not possess the potential to be as explosive as the Colts, but I do believe that Eli will be in the same league as his older brother and once he has a year or two under his belt, we won't exactly be looking forward to facing him twice a year...

It's really too bad that in today's NFL a rookie QB has to play so soon. In some cases it really ruins a guy's career. Back in the day rookie QB's hardly ever saw the field before their 3rd or 4th years. The last guy that I can remember being brought along slowly was McNair. He only started a handful of games his first two seasons and it wasn't until year 3 he became the full-time starter.

I see your point. But I intended that Eli will benefit from the experience of starting and making mistakes, much as Peyton did. I do not believe the Giants will win very many games this year because of Eli being a rookie and the reasons you mentioned. Again, you are correct that with their current talent level, they do not possess the potential to be as explosive as the Colts, but I do believe that Eli will be in the same league as his older brother and once he has a year or two under his belt, we won't exactly be looking forward to facing him twice a year...

this is either going to help him become a better qb like you said or make him fail miserably(sp?). unfortunately for eli, he wound up in a place where they aren't that supportive when u fail, but we'll find out for sure in a few years whether the hype was deserved or not.