Is Owens that good or the new Eagles CB's that bad?

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JoeRedskin
05-06-2004, 10:17 AM
From John Clayton at ESPN.com listing Eagles as 9th most improved team in offseason ('Skins were number 4 behind Detroit, Oakland, Atlanta):

"Philadelphia needed to make some bold moves to stay ahead in the NFC East, which has suddenly become one of the league's most competitive divisions. Everyone noticed in minicamp the separation Terrell Owens was getting on cornerbacks. Donovan McNabb has never had that type of receiver in his five seasons in Philadelphia."

So, would he have gotten separation against Taylor and Vincent? Will he get it against Smoot and Springs?

Or - Will Coles, Taylor and Gardner have a field day against Philly's new DB's?

I personally think Owens is going to improve the Eagles. I think he and McNabb will be scary good together because both McNabb and Reid won't put up w/ TO's bs. McNabb's competitive fire is more akin to TO's then Garcia's was. Also, McNabb will not let himself be outworked by anyone on his team. For all his failings as a QB, McNabb is the leader of the Eagles in a way that Garcia wasn't for the 49'ers (Not trying to knock on Garcia, I think he is a limited but quality QB and that TO's attitude towards him was/is classless).

I hope TO implodes and breaks into his "I am the greatest" mode. I just don't see it happening w/ McNabb and Reid around.

Also, I think Springs matches up against TO pretty well. Even if TO gets the better of him in some of their battles, I don't see TO being a "playmaker" against Springs. (Side notes: For JoeCrisp - How did Springs look in our minicamp? For everyone - Do you think Springs can get back to being a "shutdown corner" in the league?)

With that said, I think the Eagle DB's are going to be known as the "English Muffin Boys" because they gonna get toasted by everybody. Even if they were on the downside and gonna be overpriced - letting BOTH Vincent and Taylor go is gonna be the downfall of this team. Johnson will either have to blitz less and scheme help to the CB's OR bitz 9 each play and pray for a sack before anybody can get open.

FRPLG
05-06-2004, 10:27 AM
This the first time Philly has gone out and tried to improve the team in a big way. Seeing as how they had been successful for several years I think this move will prove either to be a giant success or a total failure. There won't be much in between. Really though...it's looking like a two horse race in the NFC East. With the Giants most experienced quatreback being the Bachelor and the 'Boys sticking to their guns on Carter can anyone honestly expect them to compete? Parcells is a great coach but he caught the football karma last year and karma always comes back on you. They CANNOT be taken seriously with Carter at QB.

SKINSnCANES
05-06-2004, 10:52 AM
The Eagles are going to have to hope for a lot of pressure with their front 7. They still have Brian Dawkins in the secondary, so lets not forget about him. But Dawkins cant cover everyone, expecially a system where Gibbs has a Hback running around. And more importantly, and hback picking up blitzes to keep the QB protected. Even with Kearse the Eagles D has taken a hit, they lost their leader in Emmons and both starting corners. Their offence now has a big threat receiver, McNabb is always a threat, but we'll see if they have a running game. I think the Skins are a more complete team, but no one can argue that the Eagles have been the best team in the NFL for the last three years (recordwise ateleast)

joethiesmanfan
05-06-2004, 12:05 PM
the eagles DB's will be fine. they have some good young talent. i wouldnt bet on them being toasted much. thats weak. do you think andy reid would have let vincent and taylor go if he didnt know he had good backups in the eings for the last two years? come on fellas. Springs in a word is garbage. Walt Harris will have to be our other corner by week 8 remeber that quote.

joethiesmanfan
05-06-2004, 12:08 PM
P.S. Garcia is garbage too. Him and Quincy Carter are in the same league.

JWsleep
05-06-2004, 12:55 PM
Joetheismanfan:

Why do you think Springs is garbage? Do you mean injury-prone? Or is it something else about him you don't like? I don't know much about him, but he made the probowl a few seasons back...

SmootSmack
05-06-2004, 01:14 PM
P.S. Garcia is garbage too. Him and Quincy Carter are in the same league.

You're talking about Jeff Garcia? I'm not so sure I would say he's in the same league as Carter. That seems like a pretty bold statement to make

joethiesmanfan
05-06-2004, 01:29 PM
Well springs doesnot impress me. I always remember him getting burnt. remember the T.O. sharpie incident? Springs was the victim and the victim alot that game. He is no where near Smootie or Champ him and Walt Harris right now are bout the same. You can't have a cb injury prone that's an oxymoron. If A CB HURT THEN HE BURNT. As far as Garcia compare him to Tim Rattay. Tim who??? He had enough sense to understand if you losing and T.O. is on your team it makes logical sense to throw him the ball. That would be like Ramsey not throwing to coles while we are behind. You mean there weren't plays designed for T.O.? If you lose and dont use your most potent weapon i blame the coach but when Rattay comes in and does better getting the ball to T.O. and the team improves I blame bubble bum armed Garcia.

joethiesmanfan
05-06-2004, 01:36 PM
P.S. except smoot he the man hurt or not. The new number one corner in the league after this year. my next prediction.

joethiesmanfan
05-06-2004, 01:44 PM
P.S.S. my list of people i dont want to be redskins. Kordell Stewart, Garcia, Warner, Quincy Carter, Hambrick, Sapp, can yall help me add to this list so we can email it to coach Gibbs the god of all NFL coaches. then take the list personally to vinny and Dannyboy. so they don,t have any excuse for doing more Front office follies.

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