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Daseal 03-28-2006, 02:32 PM From what I understand, Saunders offense gives all the motions in the call and they are supposed to be very self explanitory. So as long as Campbell can repeat what Saunders says, and knows the name of the routes (curl, hook, fly, post, etc all have different names) he knows what every receiver is doing.
Huddle 03-28-2006, 02:57 PM From what I understand, Saunders offense gives all the motions in the call and they are supposed to be very self explanitory. So as long as Campbell can repeat what Saunders says, and knows the name of the routes (curl, hook, fly, post, etc all have different names) he knows what every receiver is doing.
I read about a three-digit playcalling system that was the brainchld of Coryell. Somehow it tells each player his assignment. From that standpoint it sounds simple in use, but volume is part of the plan. How do you practice 200-300 plays as part of the gameplan?
JWsleep 03-28-2006, 03:10 PM Given JG's loyalty to Brunnell, it's certainly Brunnell's job unless he's injured. My worry is that he'll get a "nagging" leg injury but won't sit, and his performance will drop off. How long until Gibbs sits him? Hopefully Saunders will have some pull here on that issue. My guess is he will, but JG has always made those QB decisions--it's one of his trademarks. We'll see.
The lack of audibles certainly simplifies things, but reading NFL defenses pre-snap takes experience, and Mark has that experience. I'd love to see us get a few blowouts, so Campbell can come in and get a feel for the game. Here's the plan: run it up early, and let Campbell ease it home.
Paintrain 03-28-2006, 03:14 PM Short answer.. However the coaching staff deems will be most successful..
Brunell obviously is the unquestioned starter going into the season (assuming no injury) but Campbell will see playing time. Based on the interview on Redskins.com he and Larry Michael agreed he would likely play at some point this upcoming season so there may be a plan to get him some extensive time with the starters in the preseason and be the primary backup in the regular season..
Daseal 03-28-2006, 03:15 PM Given JG's loyalty to Brunnell, it's certainly Brunnell's job unless he's injured.
I don't think JG's loyalty matters. I don't think Gibbs is going to say "Yeah, this is your offense, but you better play my quarterback." This is Saunders choice. That said, anyone have a list of Saunders QBs?
That Guy 03-28-2006, 06:27 PM Wait until the preseason and see how they're playing. All 3 WRs are good in space, so simple screens can end up as 20-40yard pass plays. Moss is great at adjusting to mis-aimed passes and lloyd can make something out of nothing every now and then. Portis and cooley can adjust too.
I think becaue of the amount of general talent outside the QB position, that it probably won't be the harshest system to learn or play in. Brunell is only above average (until he gets tired or hurt and becomes absolutely awful), so there's a chance campbell could be an upgrade there (besides just a younger QB). Its hard to tell when no one has actually seen him play outside 2minutes during a ravens preseason scrub session.
That Guy 03-28-2006, 06:27 PM I don't think JG's loyalty matters. I don't think Gibbs is going to say "Yeah, this is your offense, but you better play my quarterback." This is Saunders choice. That said, anyone have a list of Saunders QBs?
kurt warner and trent green are probably the best known ones.
Master4Caster 03-28-2006, 07:27 PM [quote=Huddle]Anybody care to guess with the coaching staff? How will Jason Campbell be handled this year? Here are some of the factors to consider:
a) Jason, a pocket passer, is better suited to the Saunders offense than Mark;
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Huddle, I like a lot of your opinions, but I gotta question your premise on point "a." I haven't seen enough of Jason Campbell at the pro level to know what kind of QB he will be. And your statement implies that Brunell is not a pocket passer. He actually is, but he's mobile within the pocket to buy an extra half-second for someone to get open. With Lloyd and R-El, maybe he won't have to do that so much next season. It's rare that he runs past the line of scrimmage. (Brunell ran for 111 yards last season for 2.9 ypc. Mike Vick ran for 597 yards, 5.9 ypc, and was Atlanta's #2 rusher last season. NOT a pocket passer.)
There's nothing to suggest the Brunell is unsuited for whatever offense Saunders comes up with. His experience should give him a leg up on adapting to a new offense. If his knees hold up, he's the man. Incidentally, John Elway won his first Super Bowl at age 37.
I think Campbell gets the equivilent of two full games in the preseason with the start going to whoever is most effective (tie goes to Brunell).
GTripp0012 03-28-2006, 07:42 PM Anybody care to guess with the coaching staff? How will Jason Campbell be handled this year? Here are some of the factors to consider:
a) Jason, a pocket passer, is better suited to the Saunders offense than Mark;
Huddle, I like a lot of your opinions, but I gotta question your premise on point "a." I haven't seen enough of Jason Campbell at the pro level to know what kind of QB he will be. And your statement implies that Brunell is not a pocket passer. He actually is, but he's mobile within the pocket to buy an extra half-second for someone to get open. With Lloyd and R-El, maybe he won't have to do that so much next season. It's rare that he runs past the line of scrimmage. (Brunell ran for 111 yards last season for 2.9 ypc. Mike Vick ran for 597 yards, 5.9 ypc, and was Atlanta's #2 rusher last season. NOT a pocket passer.)
There's nothing to suggest the Brunell is unsuited for whatever offense Saunders comes up with. His experience should give him a leg up on adapting to a new offense. If his knees hold up, he's the man. Incidentally, John Elway won his first Super Bowl at age 37.
I think Campbell gets the equivilent of two full games in the preseason with the start going to whoever is most effective (tie goes to Brunell).
Brunell does a great job picking his spots to run. He gets a lot of big gains doing so. That average is weighed down by scrambles where he runs out after one yard to avoid having to throw.
bertoskins 03-28-2006, 11:08 PM we should establish more running game if we will use JC,
just like steelers do with Roetlisberger
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