what if we did not release stephen davis

no offense to portis
but if we don;t release davis las two seasons then

cb - bailey and springs
fs- bowen and taylor
lb-washington, barrow, and arrington
dt- noble,............and co


we have unbelievable backfield
hard fitting lb's
and just ave line

:confused: no offense to portis
but if we don;t release davis las two seasons then

cb - bailey and springs
fs- bowen and taylor
lb-washington, barrow, and arrington
dt- noble,............and co


we have unbelievable backfield
hard fitting lb's
and just ave line

:confused:

Bailey would still not be here. He didnt want to be a Redskin anymore. We would have just traded for a different player, and I cnat name to many other players that id rather have then CP. Bailey was tired of how things worked here and wanted out, so we got a great back in return. If we kept Bailey we wouldnt have gone after Springs, we would still have Smoot. Im not sure whawt Noble has to do with anything, he had a near career threating injury, I was at the game and I dont remember that happening because stephen davis wasnt there. and the linebackers would be the same either way.

Skins hit the nail on the head, Bailey wanted out. He wouldn't still be around.

As far as Stephen Davis, WHO CARES? He lacks the big play ability that's exciting to watch. I think Carolina should be running DeShaun and tossing Davis's ass on the bench.

i think watching the Panthers in the superbowl summed things up to me . Davis has some amazing career stats but he doesn't turn games he gets most of his yards in third and forth quaters against worn out defences. He can seal a game for you put it away through ball control offence but he is not the back you need to win close gems or come back from deficits. In the superbowl injury not withstanding Foster played a much bigger part of the Pantehrs offence.

I cannot see Davis would have remained here as his sal cap hit was far too harsh and his was at odds with the front office.

I agree with Skins Bailey would still not have been here but if you want to continue the arguement Bailey and Davis would be eating up serious cap so ther is no way we could have Springs, Arrington, Coles and Washington as well unless we were filling out the rest of the roaster with scrubs.

Stephen Davis is a very good back on the downside of his career. Clinton Portis is a great back with years left in the tank. Ask yourself this: would Carolina trade Davis for Portis? You bet your ass they would.
I'm sorry Davis left the way he did, but he's not without blame in the departure. He's happy and we're happy.

The cap room consumed by Davis' contract would likely have prevented the 2003 acquisitions of Coles, Thomas and Morton. It also would have hindered any effort to retain Bailey-- not that it would have mattered-- Bailey was weary of the constant change throughout the organization and wanted a change of scenery. As others have said, Davis is on the downside of his career, and is not a game-changing back at this point. This team is going to be far better with Portis and the other acquisitions made in 2003 and 2004, than it would have been if Davis were still here.

Davis is still a quality back, the problem I see with him is he wears down by the end of the season. If the Panthers are smart this year, they'll try to work Foster into the mix more to keep Davis fresh later into the season and into the postseason. Alot of people like to bash on Davis a bit, perhaps to make themselves feel a little better about us letting him go, but the truth is he's still a top back that can shred a defense. Davis was a huge reason for the Panthers' turnaround last year.

But like I said, the only problem is because of his power running style he gets dinged up and runs out of gas by the end of the year. If they can get Foster 5-10 carries per game and keep Davis fresh, he'll be much more dangerous come January.

Portis will make us all forget about Davis.

If I had Davis and Foster I would get Foster 75% of the carries in the 1st half and Davis 75% of the carries in the 2nd half. Foster can get the defense run down then Davis excells in running over a worn defense.

Gibbs philosophy of offense Davis would have done fine with a good H Back, but I think Portis has more potential and upside at this point in his carreer than Davis does. I love Davis and watch Panther's games when I can to see him play, but I'm happy we have Portis.

Davis is still a quality back, the problem I see with him is he wears down by the end of the season.

Mattyk makes a good point about the type of runner Davis is - those guys who constantly pound the ball up the middle can start wearing down towards the end of the season (like Davis).

That being said, I'd like to mention that close games are normally won with a strong running back like Davis. If he was in his prime, I'd say it would be a close call between him and Portis, on account of the fact that he simply pounds a defense into submission - which I sort of like. I think that he is more of a Gibbs-style running back.

Now that I've said that, I will say that I'm thrilled to be looking forward to 80-yard TD runs by Portis this year.